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Titan Bridges… Fair or Not?

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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#121 - 2013-01-03 10:30:31 UTC
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
Wey'oun wrote:
seriously all these people bitching about titan hotdrops


*Sigh* Going to make me use the 300 reference...
The 300 Spartans wouldn't have been able to fight the Persians if the Persians were able to teleport right into the middle of Athens.

Would have been a rather silly thing to do as Athens warred Sparta for control of the area .. Greece was not a nation per se for the longest time but a smattering of independent city states.

PS: Look up Peloponnesian War and just about any reputable history book if you want to know more .. actually recommended as it is one of the most exciting periods in history .. better than 99% of random drivel being peddled as literature these days for sure.
Aracimia Wolfe
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#122 - 2013-01-03 12:32:58 UTC
That awkward moment when the word "fair" gets applied to the word "Eve"

Kill it with Fire!

Anthar Thebess
#123 - 2013-01-03 13:31:11 UTC
BOOLER
Snuff Box
#124 - 2013-01-05 14:44:30 UTC
Dammit, not another system we have to move an army of neutral cyno alts to so we can blops and titan bridge when we are bored. Although the salty tears farmed already on this thread are palpable.
ErrorRon
Turbo-Encabulator LLC
#125 - 2013-01-09 00:39:48 UTC
I tend to scout hostile alliances and put Titan pilots on watchlist. That way I know they're ready to drop on me. Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtItWL6GfSM CCP Gargant -  Dev of my heart.

Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2013-01-09 10:36:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
I think a spool-up time on the bridge (after the cyno has been lit) depending on the number of people taking the bridge would be an interesting mechanic (yes, I totally stole this idea from dota).

It would give the defender a realistic chance at cancelling the bridge by killing the cyno ship while retaining tactical options for the attacker (use a carrier to light the cyno for your 250man fleet, bridge multiple smaller groups, ...).

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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#127 - 2013-01-09 11:37:01 UTC
ErrorRon wrote:
I tend to scout hostile alliances and put Titan pilots on watchlist. That way I know they're ready to drop on me. Lol

All alliances are technically hostile (AWOX'ing is all the rage I hear Smile), does that mean you have a folder with 600+ people just to monitor Titans or do you weed out the ones used for carebear support (ie. permanent logistics duty)?

Titan's for all their ISK, mineral and time investment are born much faster than they are killed .. not as bad as S.carriers in their heyday but the mere fact that the ultimate hulls can be and are being spammed.
We are approaching (or have already passed) the point where Titan's are essentially omni-present .. nerf their function outside of their own domain (null) and then nerf it some more just to be sure!
Dragnarok
Tork n' beans
#128 - 2013-01-29 21:11:33 UTC
I'm glad this forum is getting some attention.

Some of you have made some valid points, whether agreeing with me or disagreeing with me, and some of you have trolled (funny though). Thank you for your support and thank you for your comments.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#129 - 2013-01-29 23:24:14 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
We are approaching (or have already passed) the point where Titan's are essentially omni-present .. nerf their function outside of their own domain (null) and then nerf it some more just to be sure!


Confirming low-sec needs a nerf.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#130 - 2013-01-30 03:46:26 UTC
lolfair

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Andracin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2013-01-30 04:13:42 UTC
Ive been droped by black ops bs in low sec way more than by titan bridge. Infact I can't even remember the last time I was on the end of a titan bridge not in null...but I can't count black ops portals and jumps on both hands. Maybe we should nerf black ops to only null...
Or maybe we should quit complaining about things we don't have...like one of my alliance mates said...our alliance's titan just shoots our fleet out to areas we want to roam in...its more or less a big expensive star gate...
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#132 - 2013-01-30 10:13:50 UTC
and black ops are in line for a bridge buff ;)
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2013-01-30 10:40:40 UTC
There is no problem with jump bridges specifically. There is a problem with hot-dropping in general, but there isn't an easy fix for it problem that affects the larger coalitions more than the smaller ones. Someone suggested mass limits on cynosural fields, but any large coalition can just field sixty cyno alts. Someone suggested gimping the Jump Drive Calibration bonus, but any large coalition can just make more midpoints. Someone suggested giving jump drives a spool-up time, but all that does is make fights not happen, as any ships that see a cyno will just rabbit if they can. I suggested a "Cyno Poisoner" module which poisons a cyno field and causes any ships that jump through it to receive debuffs, but that's rife with potential issues itself.

Hotdropping disincentivises certain fleet compositions (slow, high-power battleships, for example), which isn't fun for the players who enjoy flying them, but at the same time hotdropping is a perfectly valid tactic and gimping it too much isn't going to be fun for the players who enjoy using it.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

SAJUK NIGARRA
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#134 - 2013-01-30 18:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: SAJUK NIGARRA
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
All alliances are technically hostile (AWOX'ing is all the rage I hear Smile), does that mean you have a folder with 600+ people just to monitor Titans



Yes. Because when you undock your rifter in Amamake, you need to be very aware of what that titan in Oasa is doing. o\
Enik3
Pyke Syndicate
Solyaris Chtonium
#135 - 2013-01-30 22:15:19 UTC
So basically you're crying about a 30 man fleet preying on your 15 man fleet while you're preying on a 1 man "fleet" at a gatecamp. Makes sense Roll

I've discovered that one of EVE's great ironies is that the people that claim to "feast on tears" or be "fueled by tears" are usually the ones that produce the most tears of all.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#136 - 2013-02-02 19:43:30 UTC
Titans are the end game they should be able to jump accross the universe .. Even to an another game ...P

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB

Deyo
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#137 - 2013-02-05 01:59:39 UTC
I don't really see a problem. If people in 0.0 can learn to react to cynos, so can others. Some slow/unlucky ones may die, so what? And to top it you cant even be bubbled...
Now we can discuss if titans added or detracted from game, but OP was nothing but a whine in my opinion.
Galatica789
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#138 - 2013-02-05 15:04:22 UTC
EVE isnt W.o.W kid, its meant to be broken, your meant to cry, get over it, and please be within my Bridge range next time your in lowsec
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#139 - 2013-02-05 15:57:26 UTC
Nothing wrong with Titan bridging. Personally I find to be a it of a waste of time, fapping on a Titan pretending to be elite and all, but I supposes the special kids need their PvP as wellBlink

nom nom

Tekitha
Esshulls Retirement Club
#140 - 2013-02-05 17:43:16 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
, fapping on a Titan pretending to be elite and all, but I supposes the special kids need their PvP as wellBlink

as opposed to fapping around in a dessie pretending to be elite and all, but I suppose the risk averse kids need their PvP as well ;)