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It's time CCP......Put Arenas in the game.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#81 - 2012-12-17 14:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
CCP Fozzie wrote:
The idea isn't without merit, but would have to be done very carefully in a game such as Eve.

I would like to see us provide more and better support and tools for those players who are running or want to run their own tournaments and leagues. I think the Alliance Tournaments and New Eden Open have proved there's a place for sporting events in a game like Eve, and those kind of events are even better when they are player initiated and run.


I do not see the benefits for eve here.
Edit: Except if you make this arena areas gankable...

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Ezri Dax
The Organization of Fire and Steel
Elementium Alliance
#82 - 2012-12-17 15:09:29 UTC
every game that has your awesome arena are failed free to play games , swtor , startrek online ,,,,,,,,,

EVE PLAYERS LIKE THERE SANDBOX PVP
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#83 - 2012-12-17 15:19:10 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
The idea isn't without merit, but would have to be done very carefully in a game such as Eve.

I would like to see us provide more and better support and tools for those players who are running or want to run their own tournaments and leagues. I think the Alliance Tournaments and New Eden Open have proved there's a place for sporting events in a game like Eve, and those kind of events are even better when they are player initiated and run.


I must disagree. This idea is without merit because we break the sandbox up into smaller chunks. Here you can do this, there you can do that. It is not player driven despite what is being said to the contrary. it is just creating a safe-haven for PvP, taking it away from areas that matter.

Tournaments run by CCP are a totally different kettle of fish. These are popular, yet rare events in that they do not take place every day. Arena would be like having the Olympics playing every day - dead boring and pointless.

I can think of many more reasons why Arena would be a bad idea and detrimental to this game, but to keep it short, this is all I have to say.

No.

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Bluetippedflyer
Fallen Rabbits
#84 - 2012-12-17 15:27:04 UTC
dear eve:

no arena's, it dumbs down the game

~signed me
Dewa Cinta
Horrible Mining Corp
#85 - 2012-12-17 15:31:52 UTC
Hmmm, everybody thinks its a bad idea.

Get the hint?
Theresa Lamont
Rogue Fleet
#86 - 2012-12-17 16:41:51 UTC
This arena/simulator concept may have a very high potential as a player retention factor (and probably even attraction). I just look at World of Tanks`s "arranged fights" and it seems to have a lot of success. However, what would be the impact in Eve if this would be implemented? What would be the repercussion on Eve`s economy (less real ships being blown up)? How would this affect the number of real "targets" flying around. Roaming gangs will surely have a harder time finding people to shoot at (but do people like to roam in the 1st place or they just want to have a fight?). CCP needs to evaluate this carefully before implementing this.

The idea has its merits and sounds very interesting. To reject it without really considering its impact on the game is not very serious however, I think everyone agrees that a big change like this will have a major impact on the game. Good or bad, it remains to be seen. Also, CCP should not hold itself in undertaking major game changes just because of a significant amount of programming needs to be done. That argument is not a very good one in my opinion. Players, eventually, want to see major changes in "their" game. Small tweaks & improvements (even good) can still, with time, slowly kill your player base. The competition will sooner or later come up with something better then what you are providing. And that is when you will have serious issues in attracting and keeping your players.
Imports Plus
Doomheim
#87 - 2012-12-17 17:02:41 UTC
It is the players job to organize and implement such a thing in the sandbox. These walls and borders and structures you guys keep begging CCP for keep shrinking and shrinking the sandbox. In a perfect game there would be nothing but tools for building and destroying with zero developer content- 100% player created content. Make it so. Take the training wheels off. Ron Paul 2016.
Arec Bardwin
#88 - 2012-12-17 17:15:36 UTC
The day I can grind honor points to spend on special 'arena' pvp gear and compete in the ingame pvp ladder I will cancel all my accounts.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#89 - 2012-12-17 17:16:02 UTC

Arena's.... no thank you!!!!

A mechanic to create a limited engagement between two pilots (and hence 1v1's), HELL YES...

A tool to help create tournaments.... I don't know.... this sounds like arena's to me... Besides, doesn't the test server allow for this??
Viktor Fel
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2012-12-17 17:29:02 UTC
Arenas? What an idiotic idea.

Who is Viktor Fel?

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bartos100
Living Ghost
#91 - 2012-12-17 17:40:23 UTC
i like the idea of arena's but only if they are owned and run by player corps that way there are still ways to disrupt it :)
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2012-12-17 17:42:48 UTC
Dear lord NO. This goes against everything eve stands for. If you want an area make one yourself (see RVB)
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#93 - 2012-12-17 17:45:33 UTC
Last time I was in an arena I got beat to death by fish wielding rogue.

My self-esteem can't handle another such blow......

No

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#94 - 2012-12-17 18:04:47 UTC
Theresa Lamont wrote:


The idea has its merits and sounds very interesting. To reject it without really considering its impact on the game is not very serious however, I think everyone agrees that a big change like this will have a major impact on the game. Good or bad, it remains to be seen.


We have seen what happened in other MMOs. The PVP outside the arena died out in a matter of days because it is so much easier to get fights at the press of a button.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#95 - 2012-12-17 18:11:58 UTC
EVE has an arena, it's called "everywhere but High Sec", y'all should try it sometimes.
Theresa Lamont
Rogue Fleet
#96 - 2012-12-17 18:15:24 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
We have seen what happened in other MMOs. The PVP outside the arena died out in a matter of days because it is so much easier to get fights at the press of a button.


Highly possible. You have examples?
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#97 - 2012-12-17 18:20:44 UTC
Theresa Lamont wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We have seen what happened in other MMOs. The PVP outside the arena died out in a matter of days because it is so much easier to get fights at the press of a button.


Highly possible. You have examples?

I quit it by the time they introduced arenas, but I've heard about it: Runescape.

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cBOLTSON
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-12-17 18:26:19 UTC
I agree. I mean like you said people are already trying to game the system to achieve this. You also have entities like RvB which sort of make arenas.

Thing is EVE is meant to be a living breathing universe. Why would they not have televised matches. Make it an isk sink, entertainment as well as a prestigious thing to have. You could have a 'top 10' like you do with the bounty system.

The good old days of Unreal Tournament, fragging and sniping on Facing Worlds, listening to Foregone Destruction.......
Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#99 - 2012-12-17 18:26:50 UTC
Toshiroma McDiesel wrote:
Phil Da Agony wrote:
YEAH! Put arenas and let us bet ISK there, but please, the fights will involve only npc ships.

Ty CCP.



Again, this is something that can be set up and run completely by players. (and the chances for meta gaming would be interesting) Pirate

This is the best post in this whole thread, why are people overlooking this?

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Tribunia
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2012-12-17 18:37:45 UTC
I dont like the term "arena" and it shouldnt only be for the pleasure of the involved parties only. If this thing is going into the game it needs to be packaged as some sort of sport that you can place bets on and earn ISK.

I m also for other in-game sports for betting, whatever they might be.