EVE General Discussion

I'm a nullsec player and I have no issues with highsec, none at all. Carry on, just as you were...thank you for the burgeoning market and the cheap tritanium, keep up the good work. :3

its basically you reject the very concept of game balance

well good luck with that

as Buzzy Warstl's argument was rejecting the concept of game balance it acts as a defense any possible feature set because there is no limiting factor of what feature sets are acceptable

hence my use of literally was literally correct

as well as figuratively correct and literally correct in the figurative sense

Titans are balanced by their cost.

Part of the cost is crap industry in the systems that can build them.

Sounds balanced to me, if you think it's not make a case for that.

That was the original intent, back when their guns could blap subcaps, their DD was AoE, and they had drone bays.
Then they became horribly proliferated to the point where people were camping gates with titans.
Now titans are balanced by the fact that they're much less useful in any combat scenario except blapping carriers and dreadnoughts or structure shoots where you don't want to be forced to stay put for 5 minutes at a time.

You can also still camp gates with smartbombing titans ...

Please save us from ourselves. We are drowning in our wealth.

It's already the case that, in high sec:

You can't source the materials required to build basically anything via gathering, as there are no native sources of Zydrine.
Public Material Research slots are universally locked up for 15 days in advance (and this extends right down to the quietest parts of low sec). Other sorts of slot are perpetually unavailable on a system-by-system basis.
Planetary Interaction resource levels are abymsal.
Availability of decent exploration sites is extremely low with massive amounts of competition.
The levels of anomalies, etc. are harshly restricted to the most basic and least exciting.

I got sick of being interrupted constantly in low sec so I planned a break in high sec...I don't think I lasted a whole day. It was too barren.

People bring up missioning in high sec a lot, and for good reason...because it's just about the only thing you can do there that's beyond entry-level frigate / early cruiser gameplay: and you have to bear in mind that this is the supposed forging ground for new players to get the confidence and resources to move into low and null. It's not surprising many of 'em don't make that transition with what they've got to go on - in a world where you need Tech II to be viable and you can't even supply your own Tech I? Of course they grow dependent on the sorts of markets that you can only find in high sec.

I think EVE is a great game and certainly the most successful sandbox on the market, but I wish there was more viability for building and creating across all the different types of space, and that includes high sec.

I would think that the price of goods is primarily determined by supply and demand....not CCP buffs. It's been stated in this thread that 71 percent of characters reside in high sec and that this is proof they "have it too good." I disagree. It is proof of nothing more than that 71 percent of characters are located there. We can make all kinds of suppositions based on this single data point. 71 percent of all characters dislike systems with ABC ores, 71 percent of all characters like being near trading hubs, 71 percent of all characters like Concord protection, on and on... Null sec industry will never be competitive with high sec industry if 71 percent of all characters are in high sec. CCP can buff till they drop. Unless high sec is abolished, demand will still dictate price and the demand is still going to be in high sec. Besides, sovereignty has its costs. I'll admit that if the value of the ABC ores and moon minerals drop to such a degree that those activities are no longer profitable then you can make a case for a buff since the prospect of wealth is what drives many players to null. But just because a DCII costs 10 mill in null is insufficient reason to support a high sec nerf. The counterargument could be that maybe null residents are able to obtain high sec goods too easily. Maybe shopping local should be incentivized or jfs should be nerfed. Null could also work on developing content that draws players to the region to improve its own economy. If this is a game of sheep and wolves, no amount of stick is going to make sheep become wolves. They will not graze in a lion's den because it is the only source of greenery. Even if they do, the lions will only tolerate them for so long. It just seems to me that when the best content null has produced thus far is a campaign to terrorize sheep, destroy their property, and reduce all mining activity in high sec for 30 days, there really should be no question why immigration suffers.

Yonis Kador

Can't argue with that logic, because you're just attacking me instead of disputing my point.