EVE General Discussion

The reality is that miners/indutrialists have every right to not trust you, time again your corp and its Null pets have demonstrated that you are not worthy of trust and that nothing that you promote can be taken at face value. Dealing with your corporation and your pets is like negotiating with a collective of Asperger’s syndrome sufferers, you need to realise that you are the problem and anything that CCP implements will only represent a temporary fix. Fix yourself then come back with a little credibility and make suggestions on how to fix the game.

Well technically, it's normal for the miner to be angry because the ganker is litteraly pissing in his cereal bowl. If all sov rules were to dissapear and all of null wat to become like NPC null, you can bet all SOV holder would be angry. The big difference which is the important point is how the end reaction would be. The miners featured on minerbumping are all case of people not wantign anything they do to ever change. People crying about the mining permit don't even want to spend the little amount of effort required to re-localise in another system where there are no bumping.

NEWS FLASH!!! Such system exist.

The one during hulkageddon were basicly having the same problem. They all though they should be able to fit cargo expander on thier hulk and nothing ever should change anything about that. Hell some of them even cried after the barge/exhumer buff because thier shiny hulk was no longer the be all end all ship of mining. It took week to make some of them understand the mack was the new afk mining ship of choice and it required them next to nothing to get one beside some ISKs. These player no matter what thier playstyle are will always rant about everything and never accept any change in thier gameplay. They are basicly against the very thing that make MMOs survive so a logn time. CHANGE. No MMO ever go through time without stuff being buffed/nerfed/changed. It's just not viable for any game designer to profit long term without it. If the SOV mecanic for attacking/defending territory change, you can bet there will be ragers filling the forum with tears because the way to do stuff changed. Moving the trade hub from Jita to Perimeter would cause an endless flow of tears too. There are idiots in all sec and all profession. The problem is that they have such a damn loud voice sometime the wrong stuff are heard.

The wrong stuff being herad is even worse when that stuff is wrongfully belived to be the mentality of everybody in that group. A high seccer saying the barge buff was not enough does not mean all people in high sec want barge to have even more EHP just like some low sec person saying we should delete concord from high sec tommorow does not mean all low seccers belive it should be done.

The fact that HBC and CFC are holding more space does not mean they want everythig to be ebtter just for them. Those are 2 completely unrelated point. All it means is they found a more efficient way of holding space than other groups.

I know that renting exists, it’s not all of Null that I have a problem with, just a certain highly visible element. In fact, I welcome cordial and mutually beneficial relations with Null Sec corps and even old fashioned Pirates with a skerrick of integrity.

Being annoyed or angry is allright. The important point is how you deal with it. The forumis a proof that some people just can't deal with change.

It's not exactly a secret that the CFC doesn't rent out space.

CFC lacks the essential ingredient, integrity. They have scammed industrialists in the past and their activities have tainted the efforts of Corps who are genuinely looking for renters.

yeah anybody can do it also with a botting network

It's obviously because of bots ganking profitable freighter in high sec.

tell us more about how to gank freighters in hisec with bots