EVE General Discussion

Because the rewards there are higher, at the risk of being shot at regularly by the "legal authorities".

depends on the setup, hi sec peeps don't wanna put in the work to make null profitable, because you honestly can't, why join up as a solo pilot and run sites for the same amount of isk as level 4's, and good luck getting ratshit to hi sec to sell/reprocess, unless you set up a pos.. more pointless boring work, for what? building super caps? lol yeah good luck w/ that. I was kicked from my null alliance, I thought it sucked when it happened, but i was wrong.

majority of this thread is being bumped by null alts.

then silly people (im now included in this ) respond to the 'discussion' and perpetuate it.

thennn certain other people can say 'look at that huge thread in GD - something must be broken here!!'

then the people that have a vested interest in changing the status quo win.


so, 2 things:

1. always ask 'who benefits if this happens' as your first response to things. It opens up a truckload of tinfoilery if applied to, for example. prohibition laws, world changing terrorist attacks and demands to nerf high sec.

2. to quote Blazing Saddles. Please. Stop.

That makes you wrong then. You were the one that said CCP isn't capable of fixing their own game earlier. Just so you know that second "sentence" was what the highsec miners did over ganking. Imagine that CCP paying attention to the forums and making changes based on player feedback.

If we're going to start pie in the sky unrealistic design choices (the ability to deny people access to your station is never going away, ever), let's go with the following list:

* 95% removal of hisec manufacturing capacity
* 25% reduction in refinery efficiency in hisec
* 75% reduction in BPO research capacity in hisec
* Removal of hisec POSes
* Ability to make every nullsec station outperform today's best systems in hisec at every measurable level.

The very point of SOV warfare is to control who can some in or not. Removing this remove the only reason why you would go through the hassle of doing it. Might as well just play in NPC 0.0.

Yeah... except that we paid for it and we risk losing it, along with everything we have stored in it.

Did you accidentally forget to factor that into your calculations?

Better rewards for sovereignty holders can be implemented.

Why shouldn't sov holders be rewarded directly for the improvements they put in a system?

There have been lots of suggestions in this area, most of them impossible or too overpowered if combined with docking denial.

But you CAN'T remove docking denial!

for the extra null work? none, the greatest isk pools resign there for a reason, people fail to realize EVE is not a "I did this or that so i deserve x reward" type of game, its a "you can do anything you want, so do it because it suits you" type of game. timed skills are an excellent microcosm of the game as a whole. null itself is the reward, for people who've put in the massive amount of work required to make it A) produce isk, and B) relatively safe. no body said you HAVE to go to null, its a choice every player makes for themselves, the problem exists that its still not profitable for the individual, and until it is, people won't come just to fund you.

That's the problem with such "brilliant ideas", they don't take reality or consequences into account. It always sounds good to the person making the suggestion for some reason, but the likely outcome of such thinking is creating more problems than the solution solves in the 1st place.