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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#1 - 2012-12-14 15:02:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free from big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free from being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets

Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others , EvE is about blob! they listen to nobody who force them to play like other want - in most cases- to being part of big community and socialize with everyone and working - paying - and being slaves of blob ideology... open your eyes dont be a slave.

I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.

Be free, join Empire.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#2 - 2012-12-14 15:15:04 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free form big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free form being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.

I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.

Be free, join Empire.



I like your enthusiasm, so I will like your post for you. I expect it to be trolled to death, and end up being locked for lack of content or trolling.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#3 - 2012-12-14 15:15:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia
Form != from

Sorry, had to get that out there first. Secondly, you are over simplifying the matter. Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance. Additionally many alliances offer benefits that can compaire to the freedom available in a small high sec corp. Additionally, hi sec corps can have overly high taxes, annoying policies, and drama.

In fact, I would say that very little to none of the hate from nul players directed towards hi sec is derived from your suggestion. (that is the proper word, from).

The main part of the hate is simply an us vs them mentality. The nuls view hi sec dwellers as outsiders, which usually generates hate or disapproval. The same is true if hi sec dwellers looking at nul. It's just a part of how societies work.

And I think you will find that there are enough people who operate in both or neither, that by looking at all view points you can see an overall picture if eve and the beauty of the sandbox we offer.



As for your moon comment, what do you think pays for goon ship replacement? additionally, you do realize there is a cost associated with sov mechanics much like there is one for renting an office in hi sec.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#4 - 2012-12-14 15:18:16 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance.

I certainly hope not. I mean out spais, highsec Jita alts, and, yes, our highsec afk ice mining mackinaws....

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-12-14 15:22:22 UTC
I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#6 - 2012-12-14 15:26:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Form != from

Sorry, had to get that out there first. Secondly, you are over simplifying the matter. Not all alliances are high tax mor do all require constant cta presence. Many do not even require all accounts to be in the alliance. Additionally many alliances offer benefits that can compaire to the freedom available in a small high sec corp. Additionally, hi sec corps can have overly high taxes, annoying policies, and drama.

In fact, I would say that very little to none of the hate from nul players directed towards hi sec is derived from your suggestion. (that is the proper word, from).

The main part of the hate is simply an us vs them mentality. The nuls view hi sec dwellers as outsiders, which usually generates hate or disapproval. The same is true if hi sec dwellers looking at nul. It's just a part of how societies work.

And I think you will find that there are enough people who operate in both or neither, that by looking at all view points you can see an overall picture if eve and the beauty of the sandbox we offer.



As for your moon comment, what do you think pays for goon ship replacement? additionally, you do realize there is a cost associated with sov mechanics much like there is one for renting an office in hi sec.


Its only my view and my opinion, with current status most big alliances are overfeed, moons are infinity sources of infinity incomes, its posibble to bulid few titans per month only form top moon minerals incomes.... here is more inflation than needs.

But people dont know about this, and directors never teling to them truth, because they need slaves to boost more thier walets, this is my view about slavery.

WIth full respects to all FC and combat pilots who love pvp, but i know how things wents in top financial alliances piramids...
Personaly i hate fact that i need to pay some taxes while somone is very rich and gredy, that why i prefer non social game play style, i just feel freedom.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2012-12-14 15:27:49 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content.

So more a wage slave than the classical kind? Blink
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-12-14 15:32:11 UTC
Tippia wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
I get free pvp ships and the ability to fly whatever I want in any fleet as well as access to the largest intel service in EVE and funding to go create content.

So more a wage slave than the classical kind? Blink


Anything that pays me to do mad things with megathrons is good in my bookBig smile
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#9 - 2012-12-14 15:36:08 UTC
Oh look, more informed opinions about null sec life from insignificant high sec publord #183743.
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#10 - 2012-12-14 15:56:09 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free form big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free form being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.

I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.

Be free, join Empire.



I like your enthusiasm, so I will like your post for you. I expect it to be trolled to death, and end up being locked for lack of content or trolling.

I like your post to. +1

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-12-14 16:53:46 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free from big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free from being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.

I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.

Be free, join Empire.



This could have been a good troll but it falled at the end and you betrayed your lack of age.


Try harder and people will bite more. 
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Bump Truck
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-12-14 17:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Bump Truck
What does freedom mean?

I feel supported and aided by my bro's, the alliance tax is low and I get back more than I put in in free ships.

They help me out every day to do stuff and learn about the game, they took me on a DEDspace complex yesterday and we got a Bhaalgorn drop! I'm having to turn down all the ISK they're trying to give me protesting I didn't help very much.

I can go to highsec whenever I want, I'm there right now in fact, then I can podexpress back to the depths of null when I choose.


You say you're so free in highsec but are you free to leave? Or are you trapped behind it's borders for the whole time you play EVE?

Are you really free?
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#13 - 2012-12-14 17:29:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Karn Dulake wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Whole hi sec hate is because freedom in Empire, carebears are free people, free from big corporations - alliance taxes and slavery, free from being slaves who works hard to hold territory and feed greedy over rich directors and alliance walets, open your eyes dont be a slave.

I have question for you, do you got any cent form high end moons? Haha :) No ! you cant even touch pos force field... haha :) owned.

Be free, join Empire.



This could have been a good troll but it falled at the end and you betrayed your lack of age.


Try harder and people will bite more.


Im serious, i dont troll people, its only my view, whole taxes and being parts of super rich aliances who give nothing are slavery, and nothing more, stop personal atack.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-14 17:45:47 UTC
I this a troll... thread?

I honestly can't tell. Straight

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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#15 - 2012-12-14 17:48:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
Robus Muvila wrote:
I this a troll... thread?

I honestly can't tell. Straight


Not a troll, i can save you ! read it again ! think about your self and about your ally! chose! be free Cool You are on good way.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#16 - 2012-12-14 17:50:37 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others


So make a one man tax shelter corp, grind isk in highsec for no definable purpose other than watching a wallet balance climb and congratulate yourself for being a master of the universe?

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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
#17 - 2012-12-14 17:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarvos Telesto
No More Heroes wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others


So make a one man tax shelter corp, grind isk in highsec for no definable purpose other than watching a wallet balance climb and congratulate yourself for being a master of the universe?



Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes.

EvE isn't game, its style of living.
No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#18 - 2012-12-14 18:24:55 UTC  |  Edited by: No More Heroes
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Tarvos Telesto wrote:
Espetialy they are free from ideology that say you must socialise with others


So make a one man tax shelter corp, grind isk in highsec for no definable purpose other than watching a wallet balance climb and congratulate yourself for being a master of the universe?



Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes.


Pay? Who is paying anyone? I don't pay anybody. Sure theres a tax rate if I ratted but I haven't done that since I was like a month old. I make isk for modules and things by importing goods to our active warzones. I check my orders a few times a day and make billions. I get paid to pvp and lose ships. If I screenshotted my wallet right now there is hundreds of millions in corporate account withdrawls. It's called SRP. Ship replacement program.

If you're gonna make a terrible thread on a terrible forum do a little investigation first. Sure theres probably crooked directors out there that use their alliance to finance personal titans or dumb **** like that but they quickly crumble and die. The biggest and best worst alliances learned those lessons long ago. Just more misconceptions, fear and envy from pubdom What?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2012-12-14 18:26:03 UTC
Tarvos Telesto wrote:


Why ? here always some good ways to spent own money, i like spent my hard earned money on my self than paying somone who is horrible rich and greed, espetialy for people who got abbility to bulid few titans per month but thier soliders need to spent week long on rating to buy gate blob ship to protect own greedy directors buissnes.


Let me tell you about the injustice of not spending a penny on pvp ships for months on end.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-12-14 18:30:03 UTC
Stop being an attention whore.

Youl could have posted this in the other thread discussing the exact same thing.
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