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My Arena Idea

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Pyre leFay
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-12-12 23:22:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Pyre leFay
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
I'm generally ambivalent towards arenas. In some games, they're rather well done, in others not so much.

I do like the idea of a "holodec" training arena of sorts. This was implemented in Pirates of the Burning Sea, when developers realized that a lot of players avoided PvP because they weren't sure how to properly PvP. And the "lossless" training area, where you use your standard ship, but don't lose (or gain) anything if you lose (or win) was found to be very beneficial, especially to newer gamers.

So I do feel EVE could benefit from this, especially if the goal is to attract and keep new players. Such a training arena would be perfect to ween people off the fear of PvP in a safe training environment. Corps can use it for training purposes and practice, etc.

Bottom line, it can't hurt to have it. As long as it is totally non-profit for the player.


Which can be covered in a more robust combat tutorial that can actually be repeatable with no rewards. A rookie ship with a turret and a missile can cover all the advanced aspects of pvp combat, even larger ship combat if exposed to larger ships in training if they better explained turret speeds, ship speed, sig radius and ewar.
Think of mech warrior 2 tutorial. A COSMOS agent in space with you as a instructor waiting for cues after he tells you to perform actions against targets and explains why doing something is beneficial or detrimental.
Rookie ships are "lossless" training tools that are under utilized in tutorial missions when it comes to combat training. The current tutorial tries to get you out of them asap. Basically: "just get a better ship then shoot tell their dead" is eve training.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#22 - 2012-12-12 23:44:54 UTC

A.) This is typically posted in F&I, not GD....

B.) Please do a forum search before just posting a topic.... this topic has come up many times before:
Deadspace Nullsec Arenas
Consensual PvP Arenas
Virtual Arenas
Tourney Arenas
Controlled Arenas
Lowsec Arenas
Dueling Arenas
Ship Restricted Combat Zones
Dueling Contracts
PvP Arenas
Colosseums
Simulated PvP
PvP Simulator
Null and Lowsec Arenas
Duel Mode
The Thunderdome

C.) Why can't you step up and arrange all of these fights now?? Do you really need CCP to develop this content for you??

D.) How will this impact everyday PvP??
Pretty GuyYeah
#23 - 2012-12-12 23:54:21 UTC
Yes, we need an arena system and a queue for battlegrounds.


lol

Post with your main.

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Phil Da Agony
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#24 - 2012-12-13 00:13:38 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
Why to ruin the beauty of EvE with theme park arenas, fair fights and consensual pvp?

It's up to the players organizations to arrange torunements, if it make sense for them. And many already do this. Enforcing it by some game mechanics would overwrite the player driven ones.



/thread

Nothing to do here.
Father Void
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-12-13 00:18:52 UTC
lol guess I should have known.

Get excited about idea. Post it. Expect discussion. Watch as my faith gets sucked out like Dark Crystal essence scene.

Indeed. /thread

Thanks for the time reading it and those links to others interested in similar ideas.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#26 - 2012-12-13 00:27:30 UTC
I just found this thread, but it looks like OP has thrown in the towel...am I too late to **** in the pool?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
flummox
#27 - 2012-12-13 00:28:13 UTC
i look forward to reading this when it gets moved to the proper forum...

flummox
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#28 - 2012-12-13 01:19:14 UTC
Moved from General Discussion.

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#29 - 2012-12-13 01:59:22 UTC
Father Void wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Any time you think you have a good idea for an arena you simply provide a way for players to be immune from interference from other players and that is quite obviously a big no-no.

If you want a 1v1 go somewhere quiet to have it. The tools are already there to allow it. There should categorically NOT be a way to provide ship immunity which is exactly what these arena proposals always forget.


I have to ask why? Why is temporary environment where you can have a fight a bad thing? What are the downsides? I'd like to hear them because maybe there's a way to resolve them. They wouldn't be able to do anything special. It not like we're creating a WH where then can setup a POS and mine. they can't hide in there from aggressors, simply put a time time on matches and between matches.


1. It removes player population in regular PVP areas thus damaging the current environment. This entire game relies on the existence of PVP. Undermine it by trivialising combat to a simple and guaranteed safe 1v1 and many people will resort to this rather than actually populate space as intended. Result: Even more barren wasteland.

2. If no one can get to you to interfere then these can be used to create unreachable safe spots. PVPing and an unkillable blob is running up the pipe? Go make a safe arena where they cant get you.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-12-13 02:47:29 UTC
I read about an arena area once, i think it was called new eden, it was massive, with hundreds if not thousands of different areas to fight in. They also had these cool areas to take a break in, and if you wanted to be really well hidden there were these secret doors where the only way someone knew that you were there is if they saw you go in. I can really remember where i read about this though.

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