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CCP a response to how you think the drone change has gone down?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#41 - 2012-12-12 20:32:02 UTC
CraftyCroc wrote:
Most of them are locked because of trolls like you. The OP has an issue and he has started a discussion. Let him do it - also try to find a more constructive way of living your life instead of trying to be a **** to others.

Sounds like the operation was successful in the past.

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Merouk Baas
#42 - 2012-12-12 21:06:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
starbelt stacy wrote:
no tin foil hat needed... what i said is based on fact.

just wait til the next patch comes out and hi-sec incomes will be nerfed further until the game becomes so niche it will die out due to not having enough subscribers and we will all see the announcements of eve online servers finally being shut down.


So EVE is dying, check. Been waiting for the announcements for a few years now.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#43 - 2012-12-12 21:37:25 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Seriously, this is just getting old. Quit EVE. If you're too useless to use the search function or read the forums before posting the same thing already being discussed, then it's no wonder you fail at drones.


Please tell me you don't work in any business that requires you to be interacting with paying customers.

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HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-12-12 21:43:58 UTC
death2alldrones

all drones must die, drone proliferation is finally being dealt with

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Pretty GuyYeah
#45 - 2012-12-12 21:52:11 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Ooooh, another dronewhine thread. Ill sit this one out and let everyone else take a whack at it.



I have yet to see you make one, single useful post.

Post with your main.

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Phil Da Agony
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2012-12-12 22:51:18 UTC
"Working as intented".

Heres your response, now move the f*** on.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-12-13 01:38:52 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Seriously, this is just getting old. Quit EVE. If you're too useless to use the search function or read the forums before posting the same thing already being discussed, then it's no wonder you fail at drones.


Please tell me you don't work in any business that requires you to be interacting with paying customers.


I'm in PR. I tell customers what they want.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-12-13 02:03:55 UTC
Response from CCP, and everyone else, can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-12-13 02:22:38 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Response from CCP, and everyone else, can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q


After seeing that, it is my humble opinion that CCP are the greatest game devs to ever exist.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Diabhal Dunmharu
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-01-10 22:27:05 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
This thread again?

Seriously, this is just getting old. Quit EVE. If you're too useless to use the search function or read the forums before posting the same thing already being discussed, then it's no wonder you fail at drones.


Funny how responses like this get so many likes. I beleive this game is just full of trolls because it isn't the fact that people lose drones, but recalling heavy drones over and over make drone boats like 50% slower to do missions than anything else. This is a fact and I've tried everything from target painters to ECM to hold aggro and you will still have to recall drones on a regular during certain missions. You will still lose some drones even if you recall as soon as NPC switch to them, but that isn't as bad as the time it takes to get the mission completed. Just because you can do missions in a drone boat doens't mean you should. I would suggest that everyone who trained 60 days for really good drone skills instead of the 22 for missiles or tiurret skills just quit the game. If you drones did 50% more damgage than turrets, you might complete missions at the same rate after all the recalling of drones you have to do if you use heavies.
Flakey Foont
#51 - 2013-01-10 22:32:45 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
Drones for PVP is a moot point, but PVE is a different ball game.

The Dominix Ishtar and Ishkur are now useless for PVE. These are dedicated drone boats being placed on the top shelf left to rot.

Doesn't it seem a little stupid to force some of the best boats....to rot?

Its kinda like taking away the rep power bonus from the Archon. What use does it have over any other carrier?

I think the Drone AI needed a push up the backside but i think perhaps CCP have done the usual and perhaps over compensated as normal.

On dedicated drone boats I think they should now give a new bonus of drone hitpoints per level for sentries/combats as well as MWD speed bonus for combat drones [non fighter]







This is completely untrue. I fly drone boats and it works fine in PVE. A little harder yes. If you think they are useless you didn't know how to fly 'em in the first place. This argument is stale and is simply whining. Can you AFK anymore? No.

Plus, why did you feel the need to start yet another thread on this? Are you a special snowflake?
Anyura
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-01-10 22:44:39 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
And yes, like you I would very much like to see any Dev comment on the drone issue. So far, it's been over a week and not a peep from anyone. A simple "we won't be touching drones in near future" would be more than sufficient to let us know, so we can cross-train and stop wasting time. Honestly, if they just told us, openly "If you're a drone user, you're ****ed!" I would be totally fine with that. I just need information! Talk to us!


Please don't touch my drones. They bleep and whine so distressingly whenever they see you...

...you haven't....done anything to them, have you? Shocked
Diabhal Dunmharu
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-01-10 22:45:07 UTC
Flakey Foont wrote:
TriadSte wrote:
Drones for PVP is a moot point, but PVE is a different ball game.

The Dominix Ishtar and Ishkur are now useless for PVE. These are dedicated drone boats being placed on the top shelf left to rot.

Doesn't it seem a little stupid to force some of the best boats....to rot?

Its kinda like taking away the rep power bonus from the Archon. What use does it have over any other carrier?

I think the Drone AI needed a push up the backside but i think perhaps CCP have done the usual and perhaps over compensated as normal.

On dedicated drone boats I think they should now give a new bonus of drone hitpoints per level for sentries/combats as well as MWD speed bonus for combat drones [non fighter]







This is completely untrue. I fly drone boats and it works fine in PVE. A little harder yes. If you think they are useless you didn't know how to fly 'em in the first place. This argument is stale and is simply whining. Can you AFK anymore? No.

Plus, why did you feel the need to start yet another thread on this? Are you a special snowflake?


Trollolo. It isn't rocket science to attack a ship with drones ******. You can stare at the screen, attack NPC with same size drones and kill elite NPC first and you will still end up recalling drones 10 times on some missions. This makes for the slowest mission running in the game. That is a fact and nothing can change this truth. I've done everything from ecm to target painters+remotre rep on sentry drones. The people who are most affected by this are those who like to use heavy, medium, and light drones instead of sentries.
Diabhal Dunmharu
Doomheim
#54 - 2013-01-10 22:47:15 UTC
Anyura wrote:
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
And yes, like you I would very much like to see any Dev comment on the drone issue. So far, it's been over a week and not a peep from anyone. A simple "we won't be touching drones in near future" would be more than sufficient to let us know, so we can cross-train and stop wasting time. Honestly, if they just told us, openly "If you're a drone user, you're ****ed!" I would be totally fine with that. I just need information! Talk to us!


Please don't touch my drones. They bleep and whine so distressingly whenever they see you...

...you haven't....done anything to them, have you? Shocked


Nothing makes more sense. Most of my frusteration is that I don't know if drones are a waste of time now or if I can continue to train in them.
Cindy Marco
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-01-10 22:53:52 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Response from CCP, and everyone else, can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q


........



Holy crap. How have I never seen this? Big smile

I need to get a job with CCP.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#56 - 2013-01-10 23:46:16 UTC
Haven't noticed a change...i never afked missions.
To be honest level 4 missions should be moved to low sec.
Gallente ships not broken. Kronos works fine.
So does the Dominix. Sentries (drones) + Turrets work fine.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#57 - 2013-01-11 00:17:04 UTC
Went and did some L4s just to see how they were, bringing extra drones because of all the hysteria, and didn't lose a single one. I didn't even have to recall them to lose aggro. I noticed no change whatsoever.

Would be hilarious if the game is watching players for activity and sending the NPCs after anyone who appears AFK.

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Bennet Am
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#58 - 2013-01-11 00:47:26 UTC
I use drones in PVE.

When Ret. released it was a bit harder to use them. Now that they patched it, it is easier again. My drones barely ever get aggro.

I suspect there is a difference between people who use drones at close range and people who use drones at long range. If I have interpreted posts correctly, the long range drone users have had their playstyle crushed.

I am going to guess they will have to adapt. I don't think CCP will change anything because that playstyle is too similiar to what bots do.

Get in close, melt faces, tank the damage and let your drones go crazy.

Sentries might need work, but your lose credibility with such extreme claims.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#59 - 2013-01-11 00:52:13 UTC
Diabhal Dunmharu wrote:
Funny how responses like this get so many likes. I beleive this game is just full of trolls because it isn't the fact that people lose drones, but recalling heavy drones over and over make drone boats like 50% slower to do missions than anything else. This is a fact and I've tried everything from target painters to ECM to hold aggro and you will still have to recall drones on a regular during certain missions. You will still lose some drones even if you recall as soon as NPC switch to them, but that isn't as bad as the time it takes to get the mission completed. Just because you can do missions in a drone boat doens't mean you should. I would suggest that everyone who trained 60 days for really good drone skills instead of the 22 for missiles or tiurret skills just quit the game. If you drones did 50% more damgage than turrets, you might complete missions at the same rate after all the recalling of drones you have to do if you use heavies.
What's not so funny, is how you bumped this awful thread with an equally bad wall of text.

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Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-01-11 00:56:33 UTC
Dude, just stop trying. I did. CCP does not comment on the state of drones any more, in PvP or PvE. Put "CCP" and "drones" in one topic, and you are virtually guaranteed no blue tag. Do yourself a favour and cross-train away from drone boats like everyone else.