EVE New Citizens Q&A

2 days old rookie here...

I don't see any blueprint making Miner II, does it mean the price of it will keep going up??

It is already at some horrible price X_X

By the way, is there any recommendation on good guides to a path of a miner?

No, it's made via the invention process.

In short (very high level summary), Mining Laser I BPC + Laser Physics data cores + Mechanical Engineering data cores plus the correct data interface, stick that lot into an invention line and you may (when you have decent levels in those two skills, which cost 10 million ISK each, as well as Gallente Encryption Methods) result in a Miner II BPC (may)

The Miner II isn't that expensive, 1.2 million or something like that.

Miner starting path.

Grab that new mining frigate (Venture), some couple of Miner Is on it (or higher meta mining mods), see if you like mining. If you do, set up a skill plan to get yourself into a Retriever with strip miners fitted. Longer term goal is Mack with Strip II or maybe the Hulk (if you mine in a fleet, it's not a solo miner)

Don't forget refining skills. Refine without those and you lose ISK. Without them you have to sell the ore cheaper than you would the minerals.

Mining isn't great income, especially at the beginning. It is steady income.

It looks like the invention thing is really not what i am looking for...

2 x 1.2 M = 2.4 M...

which is quite a lot in my book... at least at this point.

not even sure if the expansion is worth it?

and... what happens when a ganker appears...

Best advice you will ever hear on these forums

Guess who supplies you with the stuff you buy from the market...

If you hate miners, stop buying from the market and make all your stuff yourself...

dont listen to people who are telling you not to mine (actually dont listen to anyone who is telling you not to do something you want),mining is boring but as a new player you have a lot of time waiting for skills to lvl up so while you are waiting you can do missions or mine - i do missions too,but i also like semi-afk mining - im not dull person,i cant do just one thing forever

you have to mine unless you

1.sell plex
2.have someone give you money
3.have corp to support you
4.used buddy invite program -probably the easiiest way to start without doing labor

so if you are solo newbie,no friends yet to support you

1.finish all tutorials
2.buy those miners,by the time you finish the tutorials you will have enough money to buy them
3.get venture,equip them and mine you will make the money you spent in around 3 hours of mining

sooner or later you will get skills and isk to stop mining and do whatever you want

as far as mining guide goes,google halada mining guide,its old (doesnt have venture in it) but other parts (frigate,retriever,covetor,hulk) are still valid

Check your contracts for 5x Miner II, free of charge. Merry Christmas!

This probably deserve another topic... but...

several of my tutorial mission items (civilians... and data chip) just got blow away together with my ship, is there anyway to reobtain them?

That mission specifically tells you that you WILL blow up. And I believe even grants you a ship to get blown up with.

About your next post of obtaining stuff again:

If you loose your ship in EVE, you love it + the fit that was on it (there is a chance though that some modules drop as loot).
So in case of a mission. Bookmark the wreck (NPCs don't kill pods, so you will have time for it) and go fetch a new ship, warp to your wreck to see what dropped as loot.

There is another way to get infinite and free Civilian miner + Civilian gun. This is by docking in a station where you don't have any assembled ship. This means you will get a free rookie ship + civilian gun + civilian miner + 1 trit. The other modules (civilian codebreaker for instance) are useless outside the tutorials and if you need the modules for a tutorials any plain T1 modules works too. So you can buy a Codebreaker I from market and use that.

You don't really need the civilian items, they're junk and you should try to use the better (military) versions on the market. For example, instead of Civilian Shield Booster, train the skills required for and use a Small Shield Booster I, or the better variants (Small Clarity Ward Booster I for example), which often aren't that much more expensive.

As far as the data chips and the like, if it's required for you to complete the mission, and you got it by killing an NPC, wait until the next server downtime and go back and kill it again. If the chip was given to you, there may be an option with the agent "I lost my chip, give me another one", so talk to the agent.

The civilian stuff is just there to give you an idea of how the items work. You should always use the better non-civilian items.

EDIT: Also, always leave your stuff in a station, never carry with you stuff you don't need for the specific task / mission. Ships get destroyed all the time. If you're TOLD you're going to be destroyed, strip all fittings from the ship and go with just a bare ship, insured to the maximum.