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Where's the fights?

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Besina Echerie
Vermona Collective
#1 - 2012-12-11 20:20:43 UTC
So I got my ship ready to fly (well, with the cheap stuff anyhow) and I went out looking for people to shoot at me. I figured i'd make it a goal to go wander around before breakfast or bed and find someone to blow my ship up while I can still buy a new one with one trip in a Venture.

But i'm having a hard time finding anyone! I go out to low-sec, in systems with people in them. I see them on local, I see them on the scanner.. I don't see them at belts or in stations though, so I figure they're sneaking around at safe spots like I am (oops) and so I can't find them.

Of course everybody in the starter corp is terrified of low security space so they aren't out there either. I keep hearing that there's nothing valuable enough to make them risk it.

So all I saw was "nothing nothing nothing... terrifying assault frigate on a gate that i'm pretty sure I can't take in my dinky Atron on their way somewhere so I don't attack them.. nothing nothing nothing.. lots of people i can't find.. more nothing.." and I never actually got to get blown up. I'm at the verge of taking a trip through Syndicate, just because I figure at least that way i'd get to go "ooh look, bubble" before getting vaporized by a battleship.

Any tips?
Cornelius Varus
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-12-11 20:22:56 UTC
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#3 - 2012-12-11 20:29:57 UTC
Start ratting. If no ones finds you then you'll make money! If they do you have a fight, win/win!

The Drake is a Lie

Besina Echerie
Vermona Collective
#4 - 2012-12-11 20:33:31 UTC
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-12-11 21:06:49 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Besina Echerie wrote:
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.


Amamake is that way =====>

<====== Rancer is that way..

Want to live in low-sec....Go do it.

FW is also Low-sec based, so you might want to look into that.

Other then that, use things like dotlan to see where low-sec is busy (skip the 2 I posted about, they are smartbombing battleship heavy) and move there...

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#6 - 2012-12-11 21:07:13 UTC
Besina Echerie wrote:
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.


^^^ this is awesome.

A great man named Haedonism Bot once said of this game that "Anyone who says 'you can't...' or 'you shouldn't...' is either a coward or an idiot, or both." You have the right attitude.

Finding fights in lowsec can be a patience game, especially when you are flying solo with low skills. Keep it up, and you will find targets. Don't be afraid to take tough fights and lose. Your best bet is to find a few friends who have the same interest, so you can gang up on ships bigger than your own.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-11 21:09:29 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Besina Echerie wrote:
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.


^^^ this is awesome.

A great man named Haedonism Bot once said of this game that "Anyone who says 'you can't...' or 'you shouldn't...' is either a coward or an idiot, or both." You have the right attitude.

Finding fights in lowsec can be a patience game, especially when you are flying solo with low skills. Keep it up, and you will find targets. Don't be afraid to take tough fights and lose. Your best bet is to find a few friends who have the same interest, so you can gang up on ships bigger than your own.


Quoting yourself in a 3rd person way makes you look sillyP

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Malcolm Ozran
Suddenly Nothing
#8 - 2012-12-11 21:27:57 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Besina Echerie wrote:
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.


^^^ this is awesome.

A great man named Haedonism Bot once said of this game that "Anyone who says 'you can't...' or 'you shouldn't...' is either a coward or an idiot, or both." You have the right attitude.

Finding fights in lowsec can be a patience game, especially when you are flying solo with low skills. Keep it up, and you will find targets. Don't be afraid to take tough fights and lose. Your best bet is to find a few friends who have the same interest, so you can gang up on ships bigger than your own.


Quoting yourself in a 3rd person way makes you look sillyP


At least he isn't going "Ohhhh myyyyy, how decadent"

...yet
Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#9 - 2012-12-11 21:52:17 UTC
Besina Echerie wrote:
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.


It's a good attitude to have, but if you get bored of looking for people, and/or don't want to join Faction Warfare (which is mostly lowsec, I think), RvB is definitely PVP on tap. Just this morning, I had five minutes before work and went out to lose a frigate (because I'm bad). ;)

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. …"

Besina Echerie
Vermona Collective
#10 - 2012-12-11 22:11:12 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Start ratting. If no ones finds you then you'll make money! If they do you have a fight, win/win!

That's an idea, even if it'd mean a little bit meh-ier of a fit. What sec can I go down to and still have the rats be decently easy to take down with an Atron? (I'm focusing on mastering that ship first and don't want to spend a bunch of time learning how to be bleah in a bunch of different ships)
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#11 - 2012-12-11 22:14:48 UTC
Besina Echerie wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Start ratting. If no ones finds you then you'll make money! If they do you have a fight, win/win!

That's an idea, even if it'd mean a little bit meh-ier of a fit. What sec can I go down to and still have the rats be decently easy to take down with an Atron? (I'm focusing on mastering that ship first and don't want to spend a bunch of time learning how to be bleah in a bunch of different ships)


Well even in 0.4s you'll get the occasional battleship, just make sure to keep your speed up so they don't one shot you xD

I once had a fight Punisher vs Punisher last for 10 minutes WHILE a battleship rat was shooing at me cause I was doing exactly what I said, ratting until a guy came along xD

The Drake is a Lie

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#12 - 2012-12-11 23:15:14 UTC
OP, take a look at your map. Notice the different filters. Flick through them a bit and notice you can get lots of data on where stuff happens. Ships and pods killed in the last hours, etc. The lay of the land is very important in finding targets. Some systems are "crossroads" that have many escape routes. Others are "pipes", with only two exits, and others are "dead ends", having only one gate. If you ever go gatecrashing in nullsec, use a lowsec entry point. They are generally less overcamped and will probably lead to more interesting situations then running into a hisec/nullsec permacamp.

Secondly, get out of your starter corp ASAP. It's pvp poison. You'll see why later. Get into a group that does the things you wanna do. I can't and won't recruit in GD, but you are welcome to have a chat with me ingame. There are many small groups having a small home or home-away-from-home in lowsec and most importantly, intel on other people living there. You might have difficulty at first finding a group that's really to your liking, but in general lowsec corps aren't that hardcore on security and aren't that hard to get into. Not being a douche and having a decent microphone go a long way.

D-scan. Master the d-scanner and learn to interpret it's readout well. Know it's range and how to hide and show yourself on other people's scanners. Set your tracking position to the exact center of your screen, click celestials in overview and scan them down instantly. And have patience, Eve isn't about instant gratification pew pew and will test your patience in many many ways. On the other hand, once you do start living in lowsec you'll make friends and enemies there. Both increase you chances of getting into fights frequently.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#13 - 2012-12-11 23:45:17 UTC
You are looking for 1v1 as a new player, you will get tired of getting smoked. EVE isn't entirely 1v1 friendly for vets let alone new players. FW was suggested, and I agree Faction Wars is probably the ideal place to start if you want to pvp early on. Only downside is you will mess up faction standing for opposing sides: Amarr + Caldari Vs. Gallente + Minmatar... though you can join any faction. Otherwise you might want to pick up tackling skills/ship and find a corp that'll recruit you.

I'm in it for the money

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-12-12 00:24:20 UTC
Go to Amamake and sit in the top belt

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2012-12-12 01:06:19 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Amamake is that way =====>

<====== Rancer is that way..

Also Tama, Old Man Star, Aunenen come to mind.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-12-12 01:11:22 UTC
Keep in mind if you engage on a gate or station you will get shot by the guns there, and anything less then a bc or a heavy tanked cruiser won't last long enough to get a second volley off.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-12-12 01:15:08 UTC
Zanzbar wrote:
Keep in mind if you engage on a gate or station you will get shot by the guns there, and anything less then a bc or a heavy tanked cruiser won't last long enough to get a second volley off.


That's why we pod on gates Blink

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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#18 - 2012-12-12 01:32:50 UTC
Besina Echerie wrote:
Cornelius Varus wrote:
I would suggest joining Red vs. Blue. You won't be able to get out of the zone one of their HQs is in without finding a fight.

Yeah i've heard that, but part of it is that I want to live in lowsec because I keep hearing people say it cant be done in spite of people doing it all the time. I take personal offense at all this naysaying.


Then pick a spot and stay there. The stuff that happens in that system over the course of time will be where your fights come from so pick a place with the kind of targets you want. (Mission/plex ganks, hauler bottlenecks, general belt pew pew, etc).


Train an alt that can fly a crappy hauler to move stuff in and out with the cloaky warp trick. At least if it does get ganked it won't show on your record and make you a bigger target than you probably want to be right now.
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-12-12 02:33:20 UTC
Hi OP, here are some suggestions you could consider if you're having difficulties finding fights in lowsec.

1. Rancer/Amamake: Rancer is not really conducive to finding fights, being as the residents, the united, are gatecamping pirates, which means less frigate pewpew more smartbombing BS. However, the surrounding systems have occasional targets as people pop in from the nearby trade hub, Hek. Amamake top belt used to be pretty hectic, but I'm not sure what it's like now. The systems surrounding it are quite target rich, but it may be hard to find frigate fights unless you request for 1 (and it's honored).

2. Pick a roaming route. One approach is to choose a route for roaming, say, 10-15 jumps preferably circular so you end up near-ish where you started. If the route you picked seems quite quiet, then look for a new one.

3. Target selection. As another poster mentioned, you have to decide what you're going to shoot. PVPers/pirates/carebears in low/FW'ers etc. This is likely to depend on the lowsec system you base yourself out of. Which brings me to my next point...

4. Pick a decent home system. The system you base out of will likely determine what targets are in your surrounding systems. If you have a PVE alt to sustain yourself, then you can pick any system you like (again depending on what targets you want). If you play mainly on one account, it may be better to pick somewhere relatively quiet (but not dead) with decent mission agents so you can run a couple when you're bored or need a quick injection of isk. Certain constellations may also have better exploration sites, but I'm not too sure if that's still true. By living near a bunch of mission agents, you get to probe down mission runners as well (bear in mind they may be in battleships), or if there are lots of explorers, you could set up traps with pre-probed sites etc.

5. Failing the above, just pop into a moderately populated lowsec system and ask for a 1v1 in local.

But most importantly, DO LEAVE THE STARTER CORP, as someone else mentioned, it's PVP poison if you stay in there too long. A good corp to join would be one near your lowsec home base with similar play time to yours. Don't worry about SP limits for now, most corps will take a new player with decent attitude and willingness to learn.

Don't get too attached to that atron, fly dangerous and good hunting o7

Major Trant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-12-13 15:34:42 UTC
If your looking for solo PvP in low sec, either join FW or fly around FW space warping to the Novice plexes. You will only find T1 Frigates (including faction frigates) inside these plexes and many will be solo and up for a fight against an Atron. While you will almost certainly lose the first few fights you won't be insta popped and will learn from them. When you are master the opposition in Novice plexes, move onto Small plexes which are limited to Dessies and T2 Frigates, down.
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