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pussnheels
Viziam
#41 - 2012-12-13 09:04:59 UTC

a like for you good sir for linking a fragment of one of my all time favourite films made by my all time favourite director with one of my all time favourite actors

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#42 - 2012-12-13 13:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
pussnheels wrote:

Media itself is partly to blame
just look at the amount of documantries on history vhannel and similair tv channels about the upcomming doomsday in the last 2 years


Not just that either. I never thought I'd quit watching the History Channel, but with the amount of time they spend broadcasting dreck like "Ancient Aliens".......sad.

History. Really ?



edit: And the Learning Channel (TLC). Started as an offshoot of PBS if I remember correctly or some kind of public educational funds. Now shows "Honey Boo-Boo". Shocked

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#43 - 2012-12-13 13:40:13 UTC
pussnheels wrote:

a like for you good sir for linking a fragment of one of my all time favourite films made by my all time favourite director with one of my all time favourite actors



I still say Kubrick should have left in the War Room Pie Fight. There is one shot where you can still see a pie on the table in the background.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#44 - 2012-12-13 15:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Meanwhile this week, entering stage right, potentially hazardous asteroid (PHA) Toutatis, at fairly close proximity. But according to NASA, "We already know that Toutatis will not hit Earth for hundreds of years." That's a relief. For us, but not for people who will be around when "hundreds of years" comes.
Also, exceptionally strong and and long-lastingaurora borealis last night. No geomagnetic storm though, this was one that can happen even when storms are in low ebb.
But that's not all-- also a pretty spectacular shower of meteors from rock comet 3200 Phaethon is going on, peaking Dec. 13-14.
All natural and normal phenomena, of course. But quite a few 'signs in the sky' at once for the believers.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-12-13 15:22:14 UTC
pussnheels wrote:

a like for you good sir for linking a fragment of one of my all time favourite films made by my all time favourite director with one of my all time favourite actors

+1! My favorite movie ever, bar none.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#46 - 2012-12-13 15:38:49 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
pussnheels wrote:

a like for you good sir for linking a fragment of one of my all time favourite films made by my all time favourite director with one of my all time favourite actors

+1! My favorite movie ever, bar none.



I was so glad over a decade ago now when it came out on DVD at correct Aspect Ratio and I could see Kubrick's B-52 shots wingtip to wingtip finally.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#47 - 2012-12-13 19:06:40 UTC
One week is all that stands between us and uncertain doom.

NASA has released a video which is meant to be viewed after the 21st, but they released it early. HOW SUSPICIOUS.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#48 - 2012-12-13 20:57:36 UTC
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Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-12-13 21:40:40 UTC
jason hill wrote:
DFS end of world sale, make your death comfortable with 0% APR Representative for 4 years

And... only one week left to max out all your credit cards! Special deal-- no payments ever after Dec. 21!
Zack Korth
Livid CO.
#50 - 2012-12-13 21:42:50 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
When the 'Dinosaur Asteroid' wiped out pretty much everything, there was not even a Mayan Calendar, obviously.

It is not required for a disaster to occur.

Anyone who even begins to see a connection with near randomly designed time-keeping constructs of the ancients as having some kind of predictive power towards absolutely natural forces of the cosmos is not sound of mind, and needs to be walked away from slowly, quietly.


i'm inclined to agree, BUT A MAN CAN DREAM CAN'T HE!!!?
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-12-14 16:13:08 UTC
Based on a friend's recommendation, I watched about 40 minutes of this 90-minute film on the 2012 stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlfYHAV1i8w&feature=youtu.be This isn't a History Channel sensationalist doomsday mash-up. It's by metaphysical people (astrologers, students of the Vedas, etc.)

What they're saying is the Mayan Calendar didn't predict any disasters. It just predicts the end of this "age" and the beginning of another one. They say that that corresponds to the Vedic tradition, which says that the Earth/humanity go through cycles of ages. Golden, silver, bronze and iron. Golden - people have wisdom and higher consciousness. Silver - consciousness not quite as high, and materialism enters the picture. Bronze - you have good and bad inside the same family. Iron - you have good and bad inside the same individual. (This kind of parallels the golden, silver, bronze and iron ages of Greek mythology. Which makes sense, since India and Greece share Indo-European languages, so share common ancient roots). Anyway, the Vedic idea is at the end of the iron age, the world transitions back to a bronze age and eventually all the way back to a golden age. It's a back and forth rhythm that goes on forever.

The Mesoamerican (Mayan, Toltec, etc.) cosmologies also talk about humans having gone through four ages of consciousness. I've forgotten how they were labeled, but in the first age, people were courageous, wise, selfless, and were mighty magicians. We're in the fourth age now, and we're a bunch of puny, fearful, greedy, lying losers, compared to the earlier ages. (This wasn't in the film, it's from an anthropology class I took in school).

In any event, the various speakers in this film say the "doomsday" stuff about the age transition was just a lot of ignorance to start with, with media sensationalism capitalizing on it in the end. Just reporting what I saw and what I've read, but go ahead and troll/flame if you want. Smile
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#52 - 2012-12-14 17:49:45 UTC
That is so true in your last paragraph.

Like was stated somewhere above, the mass media should be blamed for preying on the uneducated and the fearfully religious.

Education, or the lack of, is a huge issue in America now especially, with even some Senators on the various Science committees even SAYING they do not believe in Science. It's a really tragic situation, and makes me glad to be one of the last with a good public education up till 1983.

Like Neil DeGrasse Tyson Tweeted in response to a ridiculous Apocalyptic Post that said the oncoming "Planet of Doom" could very well be invisible so he should believe that too, "If we do detect a planet like that coming our way, everyone wil definitely believe in Physics:.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#53 - 2012-12-15 00:11:17 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
As of now, we have merely 9 days, 9 hours, and 17 minutes until the end of the world.

According to various sources, when the timer runs out we will enter another dimension, or the Annunaki return, or we align with the galactic center, or a massive solar flare cooks us all, or the magnetic poles of the Earth shift, or any number of other possibilities which are as terrifying as they are questionable.

I've made this thread to chronicle any events leading up to that date, or to just have a place for us all to console eachother as our end draws near.

So far the most notable activity is thousands of people gathering in Bugarach, France, which has seemingly been selected at random as a safe place to survive whatever mysterious horrors await us.



I'm selling ANTI doomsday tritanium in JITA, buy now to save yourself!!!!!

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pussnheels
Viziam
#54 - 2012-12-15 11:04:51 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
pussnheels wrote:

Media itself is partly to blame
just look at the amount of documantries on history vhannel and similair tv channels about the upcomming doomsday in the last 2 years


Not just that either. I never thought I'd quit watching the History Channel, but with the amount of time they spend broadcasting dreck like "Ancient Aliens".......sad.

History. Really ?



edit: And the Learning Channel (TLC). Started as an offshoot of PBS if I remember correctly or some kind of public educational funds. Now shows "Honey Boo-Boo". Shocked


aye i got very aggitated once when i stumbled on a episode of that series called ancient aliens , when on of those experts litteraly said , that those ancient culture didn't had the knowledge to draw a straight line and there fore it must be a extraterrestial alien influence

Where do they find these '''Experts '',this goes for those doomsday exper'ts aswell ...... really

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#55 - 2012-12-15 13:51:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
pussnheels wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
pussnheels wrote:

Media itself is partly to blame
just look at the amount of documantries on history vhannel and similair tv channels about the upcomming doomsday in the last 2 years


Not just that either. I never thought I'd quit watching the History Channel, but with the amount of time they spend broadcasting dreck like "Ancient Aliens".......sad.

History. Really ?



edit: And the Learning Channel (TLC). Started as an offshoot of PBS if I remember correctly or some kind of public educational funds. Now shows "Honey Boo-Boo". Shocked


aye i got very aggitated once when i stumbled on a episode of that series called ancient aliens , when on of those experts litteraly said , that those ancient culture didn't had the knowledge to draw a straight line and there fore it must be a extraterrestial alien influence

Where do they find these '''Experts '',this goes for those doomsday exper'ts aswell ...... really



It's the legacy of that von Daniken fellow from the 70's. Had a bigger influence that I would of ever thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Daniken


edit: and this film 'documentary' producer, and charlatan, of "In Search of Noah's Ark" in 1976 (which I actually saw): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0783398/ He's produced most of this dreck for DECADES.

We can really really point to him and have a face for the dart throws even.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-12-15 17:05:53 UTC
5 billion years and 2 days.

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"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#57 - 2012-12-15 18:24:18 UTC
There's lots of good info on 'Ancient Aliens' but it ruins it all by including garbage. They should just stick to the facts instead of being so sensationalistic.

As for Erich Von Daniken, he only started it. There's so much credible information on advanced civilizations existing in ancient times now it's difficult to dismiss. Still up for argument whether or not they were buddies with aliens, but the idea of man's linear progression, becoming more and more intelligent and advanced, doesn't seem to match up with anything we know about ancient cultures. The Sumerian culture was the very first civilization we know of, and it appeared suddenly out of nowhere, with a legal system, government, medicine, and mathematics more complex than what we currently use, among other things. There's also these giant carved megaliths all over the Earth which are too heavy to be moved with our biggest cranes.

The Mayan/Olmec are another example. Because whether you believe in the whole doomsday thing or not, they had a knowledge of the stars which matches our own with everything modern tech can provide. They knew all about things thousands of years ago which we only discovered (rediscovered?) in the last 100 years, like the solar cycles of the sun, and various orbiting planets. All without so much as a telescope. There's even the Dogon tribe in Africa which knew about a planet orbiting a star in Sirius which is invisible to the naked eye, and on top of that they were tracking its orbit. Where do they say they learned about all that? They claim someone visited from there and told them.

Anyway, the French government has banned access to the mountain people are going to thinking they'll be safe there. And the article gives some insight into what exactly they think will happen there:

Quote:
Rumours say the mountain will burst open on December 21 to reveal an alien spaceship which will save those nearby from the apocalypse


Which makes perfect sense.

Oh, and 5 days remain. This could be the last Saturday we ever know. Can't say i'll miss them much.

As an addendum to what i wrote about the Mayan/Olmec on the previous page, i'd like to add that i've found that some guy named Bolon Yokte is supposed to make a special appearance at the end of the calendar. Which i sincerely hope happens, just to blow everyones minds.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#58 - 2012-12-15 18:30:00 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
and mathematics more complex than what we currently use,

they had a knowledge of the stars which matches our own with everything modern tech can provide.



Sorry but I believe neither of these 2 points at all.

They had nothing approaching the accuracy of the Calculus (otherwise even the Egyptian Pyramids would be more accurate than they are).

Also, they could not know at all of what we have learned from the Hubble Deep Field. Not even what 'nebulae' really were.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#59 - 2012-12-15 18:43:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
and mathematics more complex than what we currently use,

they had a knowledge of the stars which matches our own with everything modern tech can provide.



Sorry but I believe neither of these 2 points at all.

They had nothing approaching the accuracy of the Calculus (otherwise even the Egyptian Pyramids would be more accurate than they are).


You might find this interesting. Or this for more in-depth info on their math system. And all you have to do is look into the Dresden codex to see their knowledge of astronomy. No one argues they weren't highly advanced.

Quote:
Also, they could not know at all of what we have learned from the Hubble Deep Field. Not even what 'nebulae' really were.


All we really learned from the deep field is that there are tons of Galaxies and nebulae out there, which wouldn't have surprised any of the ancient cultures i mentioned. None of them thought they were the center of the universe like the Europeans did for so long. They all knew space was really, really, big, and we were just one planet among many.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#60 - 2012-12-15 18:58:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Bane Necran wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
and mathematics more complex than what we currently use,

they had a knowledge of the stars which matches our own with everything modern tech can provide.



Sorry but I believe neither of these 2 points at all.

They had nothing approaching the accuracy of the Calculus (otherwise even the Egyptian Pyramids would be more accurate than they are).


You might find this interesting. Or this for more in-depth info on their math system. And all you have to do is look into the Dresden codex to see their knowledge of astronomy. No one argues they weren't highly advanced.

Quote:
Also, they could not know at all of what we have learned from the Hubble Deep Field. Not even what 'nebulae' really were.


All we really learned from the deep field is that there are tons of Galaxies and nebulae out there, which wouldn't have surprised any of the ancient cultures i mentioned. None of them thought they were the center of the universe like the Europeans did for so long. They all knew space was really, really, big, and we were just one planet among many.



That math is still nowhere close to the Calculus, at all.

And I guarantee you they had no idea of what the speed of light was. Or even wondered if it had a speed. It just 'was' to them.

And I've heard the thing about sirius, and it was definitely a story they told as part of a myth. If it can't be seen with the naked eye...they can't see or know of it fo real. QED.

Methinks you have been reading too much of this nonsense.

I do believe the Greeks had electric batteries though.




edit: also all these maths were off by quite a bit as they had no concept of zero at all.

2nd edit: also, what is this 21st Century looking to the past for solutions instead of thinking forward and finding new solutions ? I find it really seriously disturbing.

Without forward thinking, we would not be communicating in this way at all. Aand not nearly so fast.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882