EVE General Discussion

Watch out or they will reduce teh alpha of every single weapon in the game by 40% thus not changing the firepower balance of anything but severely breaking the tanking side of most ship making them space maus.

I probably should not of posted that...

Maybe ... maybe cargo expanders should be a tank module as well. Why not. Expanded Reinforced Bulkhead Cargohold

Or you could always use one of the other several viable methods of avoiding a potential gank.

After living in Null for around 2 years, allow me to eleborate on it.
* Words from CCP and what they believe as far as Nullsec goes and what they wanted to change http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=944 *

Nullsec design rules

EVE turned up to 11
Nullsec features should always reward teamwork, organization and interaction in every feature
Nullsec features should always support the core fantasy that we're offering
* I can agree on both of these, the PVP is amazing and enourmous sometimes in Null*

Maximize "can", minimize "must"

Nullsec features should always maximize the amount of valuable options available to the player, and minimize the number of mandatory tasks they must complete
Nullsec features should always encourage players to solve their own problems rather than using mechanics to regulate things
* There are lots of things to do there, you just have to go hunting for them, I agree with this *

Keep a careful eye on economic balance

Nullsec moneymaking activities should be generally competitive with one another, and therefore pay out more than equivalent activities elsewhere
Nullsec should always remain economically linked to other areas of the game, but this link should be carefully balanced

* This is were I think people miss their mark. Money making in Null and WH space is AMAZING. Picking up officer gear or DED crap really gets the blood flowin. And we all know what some of those run for. But it requires more EFFORT (oooh there is that word you peeps keep throwing around) to get and has a more severe RISK (The other one too? ). The problem I think people are missing is they don't sell often, so it seems like its unbalanced. However if someone wanted to do 2B through L4s, it would take weeks. So the trade off is apperent. Its fast cash vs Holy Grail of modules. And we can argue about belt ratting and other BS like that but its besides the point. Plus Nullsec and WH space have monopolies on rare minerals and moon goo mats which keeps Highsec Indy corps in check (Because they are losing millions in profits from buying these obviously needed items). All I see here is one factor balanced out by another factor.*

Everyone should be able to see how to get involved

For a given nullsec feature or activity, any player should be able to figure out a plan that ends with them participating in that activity/feature

* ANYONE can do this if they choose to, I agree.*

Players should be able to mitigate danger, but not eliminate it - nobody should be safe in space, everything that's built should be destroyable

Nullsec features can (and often should) allow players to mitigate the inherent danger of Nullsec with effort, teamwork and organization, but they should never make a player feel safe while in space, or secure in their investments from month to month: every organization should have a discoverable weakness, and anything that can be built up in should be possible to tear down again

*Yet another problem we encounter. I guess CCP doesn't realize that to kill Goons, ATLAS, ******* PL.... you need like 60% of the entire community to do this. Its like a Manager with "grandfathered" pay. Something extraordinary needs to happen to "tear down" these already mighty giants.*

The rest after that isn't really important. But the ones stated are what I consider to be the home runners. And to be completely honest I'm not sure how to "fix" things that are already cemented into the world, like Goons etc. I agree that some aspects of the game can be somewhat balanced out but they seem so minor, whats the point? Like Highsec vs Nullsec incursions. Nullsec ones are better, but no one does them because its TO risky or whatever other reason they have. (Fear of Null?)

To finalize my point, yes, some changes should be made so it balances out a bit, like nullsec POS refineries and the such, but beyond stuff like that I feel most of it should be left alone. Like watching the stock market, I'd rather see the numbers go up and down rather than shoot to $2000 a stock only to destroy the market 3 days later because the "improvements" were the exact opposite.

No its Static.

Wouldn't many of these arguments go away if it was dynamic? Give players the ability to downgrade Jita's status during hulkageddon and before long Jita will be low sec. Of course, the market hubs would shift to the new high sec (which would probably be located in blue null!) but change is usually healthy in these sort of environments.

A dynamic security system would prevent blocs building to absurd degrees which they are on both sides at the moment. Would probably have to be coupled with a sort of Concord tax.

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