EVE General Discussion

It could be because instead of adapting when troubles happen PvE-centric players decided to whine relentlessly to CCP until they got what they wanted.

It could be because PvE-centric players bring almost-no content to the game yet demand that their wants be met before others.

It could be because when the group that preys on PvE-centric players did adapt the PvE-centric players took to the forums again instead of adapting themselves.

It could be because when confronted with their own form of resistance "forum whining" the PvE-centric players complained that their predators should adapt again instead of defending themselves against the "forum whining."

It could be because people are tired of seeing an ever decrease in highsec-risk, which PvE-centric players are very much for.

It could be because CCP has stated that an ailing nullsec will not be touched for at least two years yet highsec sees continual reward buffs.

It could be because EVE is a single-shard which means it doesn't matter where it happens it has the potential to affect you. Highsec happenings most certainly have some degree of affect in nullsec.

Personally I'm tired of seeing highsec players advocate for more risk nerfs to highsec yet keeping the same reward I can get in nullsec. For those that don't understand that previous sentence, nullsec is tired of getting the raw end of the deal with highsec.

I think something taken for granted but also most definitely overlooked is the fact empire is by definition a "utopia" whereas lowsec would be thought of the "high seas" and nullsec would be akin to a "wasteland".

But everyone wants rights to the same thing, and quite honestly, it just doesn't happen that way.

Now yes, right now, I am a highsec carebear. Only because I am still fairly new (under 6 months old) and most of my stuff is still hangared here.

But I do do a bit of everything. I love lowsec roams when we want to find random fights and ransoms and have fun, I do absolutely like nullsec, even to just rat/plex. Even though it was boring for content, I had a ton of fun learning about sov warfare when I was in a fleet that got to jump from a titan in a pos to another pos dodging 2 snipers in my little crucifier trying to slowboat cloak up to them to give a warpin spot.

I also like exploring unknown WH space.

L3 and L4 missions are fun, never tried L5s (I'd pop) yet but I have done quite a few incursions as well.

Point being, I try to explore and learn and find all sorts of content.. and the worst part of Eve so far is still trying to deal with trade hubs when I need to sell or buy something and watching stupid station games and gank fests.

Yet I don't whine. Kids will be kids, but the same people generating these "tears" out of carebears are the low/null seccers who apparently are unhappy with their own choices and are taking it out on the world.

Then telling their victims "if you dont like it gtfo" which makes little sense.

Have your cake and eat it too, and all that.

ya especially the sub numbers and losses of same.
Wonder why its swung in the direction it has lately

24 pages of utter rubbish
jeeeezus some people just can't shut up

Null sec players care about high-sec, because that is where the make their isk, produce their products and trade.

take your own advice. Its better that way

It would be you get your most poetical about your launchers.

What extraordinary data you have for your extraordinary claim.

I love this wonderful proof that there was something wrong with the game. All of those miners tanked their ships instead of fitting them for max yield and were still ganked solo by a civilian fit catalyst.

And yet, just because someone complains, it doesn't mean it was a legitimate issue. At every turn where something was either nerfed of buffed, the perpetrators had to take more and more extreme measures to adapt to the situation. Where is the end leading to? Where is the breaking point where a change is implemented where a certain activity is completely wiped out so that a segment of the population is completely protected, simply because they couldn't be asked to fit their ships and use their brains defensively?

I don't know about you, but if I wasn't allowed to gank some smartmouthing kid in highsec simply because I'm straight up "not allowed to", I'd have to find another outlet in another game. You should not be given a free pass because you feel entitled to a safe environment in a game where "Unconsensual PvP" is the advertised tagline.