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[PROPOSAL] Improve Bookmarks UI

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Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-10 18:53:32 UTC
Most of the tactics we use seem to be about bookmarks, but the UI isn't very good.
This is frustrating, because we have better UIs in the game already. The market, for instance, allows for sub-directories..
Things I haven't seen how to do easily yet include:

Check box to filter out bookmarks outside of the solar system - which can also hide all directories that don't have visible bookmarks in them
Subdirectories
Ability to color-tag bookmarks
Date created field that can be used to sort by, as well as alphabetical
Ability to add bookmarks to the overview, so I can have them on my navigation tab
Better default name; Not just "Spot in X system", put some identifying info in there to be able to distinguish which spot it is when I look down after a flurry of dropping bookmarks along a warp so I can say 'Spot 19 was the one in the middle, 20 was the one I dropped at 4000 km' instead of 'Hey, three unmarked bookmarks. yay.'
neled irabnim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-12-13 14:15:08 UTC

"Check box to filter out bookmarks outside of the solar system - which can also hide all directories that don't have visible bookmarks in them"

Bookmarks in your current solar system are green, as far as I know, sorry I cannot check that atm.
Empty directories should only show up in the window that creates BMs, that is true..

"Subdirectories"
You can already creaty folders IIRC, that should do.

"Ability to color-tag bookmarks"
Nice idea, although with proper folders that should not be needed

"Date created field that can be used to sort by, as well as alphabetica"
Yes, please. Maybe combine BMs wirth an expiery date e.g. an annomaly or wormhole bm may just stay for 24 hours.

"Ability to add bookmarks to the overview, so I can have them on my navigation tab"
Could be useful, but rightclick in space is not that much time effort.

"Better default name; Not just "Spot in X system", put some identifying info in there to be able to distinguish which spot it is when I look down after a flurry of dropping bookmarks along a warp so I can say 'Spot 19 was the one in the middle, 20 was the one I dropped at 4000 km' instead of 'Hey, three unmarked bookmarks. yay.'"

Suggestions?
Spent some time and name your bookmarks properly when creating them and you have no problem.
CCP cannot know your intent while creating a bookmark.
Safespot, gate/JB bookmark, warpout or bombing points,
How should they tell, what you want to do with the bm?
Maybe you can clarify that idea.

Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-12-13 17:23:21 UTC
neled irabnim wrote:

Bookmarks in your current solar system are green, as far as I know, sorry I cannot check that atm.
Yes, they are green, but I still have to scroll past the white ones.
Quote:
"Better default name...'"

Spent some time and name your bookmarks properly when creating them and you have no problem.
CCP cannot know your intent while creating a bookmark.
And i'm not asking them to. But the other day I hit a warp in a new system and in that time I dropped:
On grid tactical bookmark
Off-grid D-scanning pre-check bookmark
Midpoint bookmark for use for making a safe
Off-grid D-scanning safety check bookmark of destination
On grid tactical bookmark (this one I mistimed, so it was a bit off grid, but it was worth a try)

...then I had to go back and try to figure out which one was which, because I didn't have time to type the naming convention for all but one of those. If I looked back and saw a string of bookmarks numbered say 2092-2096, I could just rename them then and there and be done with it.
Quote:
"Subdirectories"
You can already creaty folders IIRC, that should do.

"Ability to color-tag bookmarks"
Nice idea, although with proper folders that should not be needed

"Ability to add bookmarks to the overview, so I can have them on my navigation tab"
Could be useful, but rightclick in space is not that much time effort.

Bookmarks don't show up in space. I was scrolling up and down my bookmarks folder trying to find a BM in a folder I had named by system (so I can avoid having to scroll up and down past white BMs not in the system) and thinking "You know, I wish I could just expand the Off Grid Tacticals>IV folder right about nowso I could find where I put that scan safe for Somewhere IV, Belt 6 easier.."
Taliah Meyhin
#4 - 2012-12-14 23:31:17 UTC
Besina Echerie
Vermona Collective
#5 - 2012-12-15 07:51:45 UTC
There's a limit, too?? Oh gawd, i'm gonna hit it with my face, I just know it. *sigh* whyyyy?

Seriously, they wanna know why people get annoyed, it's because most of the game is in three windows that are all a royal pain to use. Overview, D-scan, Bookmarks.