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One hell of a salespitch there to get investments going .... NOT .

Ýou do not need isk to do this so the fact you are asking for it just shows how doubtfull you yourself are about the project's profit opportunity.That or your just plain out for a scam.


Any of the 2 are reasons not to invest , and i have still yet to see a good reasoning fro; you to pursue investors to send isk.

Anyone who would like to see my clients and past work can look at my forum thread advertising my service. It can be found in the first post.

I feel that a REAL potential investor would have read the first post a couple times, and wouldn't need me to repeat this. Also, yes I have been generating dozens of billions of ISK, and if my clients wish to share how much ISK they have paid, you can ask them. I do not plan to discuss the deals I've made with them personally, though, because most of them prefer to keep it confidential. Also, I have no plans to put asside my personal money (about 15b) as collateral just becasue someone feels I cannot be trusted. Looking at my past work, anyone can see that I've made quality websites that would cost thousands in USD if a professional service had been hired. I completed those works after the client first payed me 50% of money I charge. It's obvious to me, and hopefully obvious to investors that my service is credible, and trustworthy. For the rest, all Investments take risk. If you want to own what could potentially be the biggest, and most advanced website of it's kind, you have to take a small risk. If you don't, though, then don't invest. This is a project I'd like to do, but if the financial incentive isn't there for me, I'm happy making billions on smaller projects.

Thanks for your responses!

Great question.

First, to address your question of showing my past work. You are right. I've spoken with my partner and designer, and we are going to add a portolio section to our website which will show all past work we have done.

Second, to address how investors can get return, I will explain.

What I am proposing I create is a very, very, VERY powerful alliance and corporation management tool. This tool will do things that many other sites do, but all on one API, and very quickly. You login to your alliance website everyday right? Do you check battle clinic once a day? I know I do. Perhaps you want to look at a character sheet, or plan ahead (I check EVE Mon). All of this will be done on one simple to use alliance/corp website.

So what does this mean for corp/alliance leaders who invest in this project?

It means that your members are going to be visiting your website everyday. Not because you ask them to, but because they want to. It means that you can post events on that website, and your players are going to see it, and sign up. It means that your players are going to be at work checking their data and talking with alliance / corp members through the website. This builds relationships, and keeps them closer together.

Speaking of keeping alliance members closer together, the ratting data alone will allow your corparation / alliance to hold ratting tournaments to see who can rat the most. Daily, Weekly, Monthly, and All time top ratters for the alliance will be tracked and shown. This give incentive for alliance members to get online and kill some stuff. If that isn't enough for you, the corp / member contribution tracker will show alliance and corp leaders exactly who in your alliance is contributing, and what they are contributing. This will encourage corporations / members to be at the top of these rankings, and as a result, participate in more events, and be more active.

Additionally, there will be a lottery. The alliance I've been in for almost a week ago asked me to create an alliance lottery website. It's had to be taken down now for private reasons, but in the 2 days it was up, it made almost 200 million ISK.

These two examples I gave here aren't the best of it though. Imagine that this website does have all these tools. How difficult would it be to make this website popular, and used by a majority of the corporations / alliances in the game? Sure, the biggest might have their reservations, but with the information you are giving them is so valuable, and quick, and easy, and conveinant that the website will grow very quickly. I'd propose charging alliances 100m isk per month to give them their own private website where they can keep their corp, and their member's API data separate. Corporations could pay 50m per month. You would own a website literally used by everyone. I don't have to begin to say how this can be advantageous.

Okay, so there is my sales pitch.

Yes, I realize I'm asking a lot for little, but I don't really PLAY eve online. I get around and fool around, but I've never actually killed anyone. I'm a curse / pilgrim pilot with no kills. Why? Because I joined the game to create websites. Now, I want to create a website this big without PLAYING. This is why I would like 100b. Because all I want to do is make the website, and provide updates if necessary.

Please let me know if that clears things up! I'm sure I left out some of the features and possibilities with the website, but this is what I could think of right now.

P.S. I know some of you are going to ask why do I want 100b if I don't play. I'll answer that with.. I like collecting money, AND I really like hiring Mercs for fun! I currently have 1 corp of 50 members that I'm trying my best to kill using only mercs lol

It's not a scam. It's just a lazy 16 year old who wants to create a cool project, and get something cool in exchange.

It's a game. It's game money. Did you forget that?

I'm not trying to hurt or scam anyone. Excuse me for not being prepared with 100b in my wallet at the time I came up with this idea, and also excuse me for not being so patient that I have to save for a month just to get the "collateral" because some jerk doesn't trust me even though I've shown that I've been trusted with tens of billions for projects before and always come through.

Say even ONE of the projects I've ever done I scammed someone on. You think it wouldn't be in that thread? Put faith on me based on that, and don't make me jump through a million hoops just to have some fun.

Organization isn't. All I have to do is think up what I want, draw a picture on paint, give the picture to my deisnger, draw up a logic chart for each thing the website will do, pull the data, create the database, enter the data into the database, and then parse and present the data to my designer for him to put into the design.

It's THAT SIMPLE. It doesn't take a month.

So If I don't do what you say, I'm a scammer.

You are scamming people into believing your false claims. Therefor you are scammer.

A scammer is someone who scams. I have never scammed, and don't plan to.. Therefor, I am not a scammer. What I offer my not seem a smart investment for you, but please don't insult me. Also, I live in China right now, but I've only lived here 3 months. I'm from USA. The home of innovation.

P.S. Who's to say I haven't started on the project yet? I have an entire library of functions that I've accumulated for the past couple months from creating other websites, and that library is still growing. Also, I have designs made up, and a list of functions. Also, I likely will show my progress on this page once it gets further along.

Honesty, even if I had 100b ISK i wouldn't do it either. If I had to use someone else's reputation every time I wanted to make a sale, I'd never have the opportunity to make my own, and all my current clients would be paying me through a third party which would be pretty annoying for me. Also, I don't trust Chribba not that I have any reason not to, but by default I find no reason to trust ANYONE with that much money. But then again, I'm not sure rich. The most I'd trust someone with is 10b ISK becasue that's about as much as I can afford where it wouldn't hurt much.

The investors I'm looking for are the people willing to invest 100b. Not because they completely think i'm 100% safe, but because They like my idea, they know I have a good history / reputation, and they want to be a part of possibly the future most popular eve website in the world.

There are a few things that are FACTS about me.

!. I'm creating websites for fun. (I'm being paid EVE ISK, what other reasons could it be?)
2. I've never scammed a client even though I've asked for tens of billions up front before.
3. I have the skills and time necessary to create the website i propose. (the only skills needed are PHP, and SQL for me, and design skills (who knows what they are) from my designer, and experience with the API. All of these I have, and that can be verified by looking at past works I've done). I have the time becasue I live in china and have class only 4 hours a day in the morning. I don't speak enough Chinese to go out and socialize, and I'm an introvert anyway(my introversion can be confirmed by taking into consideration the fact that I'm 16 and know PHP, SQL, HTML, CSS, XML, and the EVE API.)).
4. I'm mature (I'm smart and patient enough to answer each of your troll posts in a professional and polite manner).

These facts prove that I can, and likely will create this website, and that if you invest, you will be a part of it.

Yes, thanks to all of your critisizm, I am redoing my offer. I'm currently putting efforts into getting all my past works up and running, and I will put a "sample" version in the future newly added "portfolio" page of my home website. Also, I'm adding a blog so that players can read it and see more about what kind of person I am. That should cover the knowing me personally, and past work,. Finally, I plan to draw out the entire design, and have a full sample website of "what could be" prepared.

I will then re-present the project here, and gather critisizm, and then hopefully revise, and then post on the market and hopefully that will do it.

I know I have the skills, and I know 100b isnt asking much for what I'm offering, I just have to do better at showing of my skills based on past work, and creating a visual representation of "what could be". so that players can share in my vision :)

If you would made everything you say in the first post , there would be people who would buy it , if you care enough check market section there are plenty of rich people who can afford it and make a profit out of it .

So :

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