Intergalactic Summit

Out of interest, Halete, why do you consider the Federation as, as you put it, a "dangerous, reprehensible beast"?

Would you care to share?

Out of respect; I wouldn't care to share. I've already answered with my take on the topic and don't wish to de-rail the subject any further.

Fragments of my stance on the Federation are littered about these boards if you feel so compelled to discover more. Alternatively, you can speak to me. But this isn't the place, especially with the likes of Inhonores present.

Bite my ****, pretty-boy.

No means no. Something that your kind would have done well to learn from the Caldari.

You're wrong. We brought it up because it was relevant and went into no more detail than sufficient to answer his question.

I don't want any more attention. I asked to be shown some respect or to be contacted privately and you did not show me that decency.

Now please, drop it. Your replies feel like some strange invasion of my person and I wish the sensation to cease.

Speaking as one who was raised in the Federation I can say that I never experienced any of this "you're not a true Minmatar" nonsense that Pilot Inhonores spoke of. I've gotten plenty of racist crap from non-Matari, however.

As others have said there are idiots of all stripes living in all areas of space. To be ignorant, xenophobic or bigoted is not purely a Minmatar issue. I'd suggest that Pilot Inhonores spend less time inside the echo chamber of the Summit comm channel and more time speaking to regular people in the real world.

How dare someone make a group and then define the rules of membership? By what right do the members of Goonwaffe get to claim that capsuleers outside of Goonwaffe, but still in CONDI, are not goons?

This is why people don't like the Gallente.

Well it's a lot like breeding dogs. Sometimes a degree of force and pressure is required in order to ensure that specific traits and strengths are passed on from generation to generation and that the breeds survives against the invasion of foreign mongrels.

It is a choice though, some peoples are like the wolves who seek to roam in freedom without masters and find their strength in the unity of the pack and others are like Caillean poodles who await eagerly for the next meal to come from their owners and yap eagerly in anticipation to be fed, groomed and put on display.

Some Matari must no doubt remember that they are wolves first and foremost and that identity as a people, culture, and nation is all that matters - irrespective of what the barking of their poodle brethren might say of it in order to please the masters whose hands feed them in the Federation.

Besides, Gallentean liberals and libertarians have always had difficulty understanding the importance of a unified society, national identity, culture and tradition to fulfilling the true needs of an individual citizen in much the same way as a prostitute has difficulty understanding the importance of dignity, pride and self-worth.

I find that entire argument wishy-washy. In Tribalism, two Matari may not have a shared experience at all! The Vherokior have a completely different experience than, say, the Brutor. Or the Sebiestor to the Krusual. Or the Thukker to the Starkmanir. They're all different groups with different shared experiences. And let's not forget different clan cultures!

A simple counter-argument: The Thukker tribe do not live in the Republic, and some of the Caravans even disagree on many points with the Republic. Having taken to a nomadic lifestyle, much of the "original" Thukker culture was preserved because of our ability to evade enslavement. So what, because we had a different experience and arguably easier time we're not Minmatar?

Sod off, and stay out of this. As Ava said in a different thread, I find it funny that non-Matari are even weighing in on this when they have no clue. And by the Spirits, stop using poor analogies from your personal combat experience. They are irrelevant here.

Mademoiselle Rella,

I hold the utmost respect for the Matari who hold fast and true to their cultural life, tribal traditions, and ethnic identity for they are men and women who understand to divorce oneself from the purity of national identity is to also live a life without value or worth. The fact that Sanmatar Shakor has realized the failings and fallacies of parliamentary and democratic party politics to properly express the true will of the people is also to be commended, for the will of a nation is often best expressed through loyalty to a single leader.

What I have far less respect for is those Matari who prostitute themselves like cheap whores to the foreign and invasive concepts of multiculturalism, liberalism, and democratic party politics in the Federation, that like a cancer eats away at the fundamental concepts of national and cultural unity that is instrumental in preserving the unique identity of a people as a race and identity. Is this not the heart of the matter then?

Do not get me wrong, this is not an attempt on my part to paint all Matari as Liberals devoid of any and all respect for honour, history, tradition, patriotism, and the sacrifices of their ancestors for there are no doubt just as many Caldari Liberals who would gladly lay on their backs, spread their legs, and sell-out the State for the clink of a coin purse from the Federation. Then again, it's not like a Liberal whatever their origins can truly appreciate just how devoid of worth they are for the entire philosophy demands the mindset of utter selfishness, delusion, and the belief that the individual should not be constrained by society.

Does it mean I hate all Gallenteans? No. I just happen to despise liberalism and democracy as ideologies and hold that its proponents whether they are Gallentean, Caldari, Amarr or Matari need to be defeated in order to preserve the cultural and national identities of all races in New Eden and ensure the order and stability upon which a lasting peace between all can at last be forged in the spirit of mutual respect, trust, and fraternity.

Even I as a Caldari can to a degree respect Roden or Blaque for the work they are doing in the Federation in that regard.

Ms. Gesakarrin, I was wondering if you've ever been to any of the culturally Caldari nations in the Federation? Some of those are closer to the original Raata culture than even the State. So, before you talk about monolithic blocs and amalgamation, do some basic research.

On another note, quit it with the clumsy prostitution analogies. I don't think if you've ever met one you'd be making such brutal and uneducated statements.

As you you Pieter -she grins- You're correct, cultural similarities are more about feelings than genetics, but do you feel a bond with the Caldari nations living in the Federation at all? on a side note.