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Why missions should stay the way they are
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Terazul
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2012-12-09 18:12:56 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Troll 0/10

No one who actually does missions believes that missions should stay the way they are now.
As a advocate for the rights of High security citizens, I implore all of you who actually care to petition CCP to change to make it more feasible to do missions.



This is actually a quote from a forum full of botters. Theres a huge blog from some guy you can read on it but basically the botters are having a miserable time right now and most of us think its amazing.

The short of it is that in the mean time you wont be able to really use battlecruisers and cruisers for missions. This is the way it used to be, and the reason that the Marauder exists. Some of us remember when there were Marauders everywhere doing missions, its all you used to see, later this was replaced with herds of Tengus burning through missions in blitz style and the Marauders just vanished, much like the dinosaur.

Sorry you're all pissy that you can't run the ship in a cruiser anymore but I guess you'll just have to try tackling your lvl 4's in a BS, the way they used to be ran.

But you can forget about doing it like that, either, because you have to deal with missions where you're trying to tank 2k+ DPS while being perma-dampened and your drones won't shoot at anything because you have to keep dancing them in and out of your hull because of AI drone aggro (and, obviously, you have nothing targeted, so you can't just sick your drones on them).

There's "hard", then there's "stupid". Missions are now firmly ensconced in the latter category.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#62 - 2012-12-09 18:14:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Scorch M is long range ammo with typical range of 22 + 5 km.
Barrage M is long range ammo with typical range of 3,9 + 28 km.
…and there's still a difference between short-range and close-range — you chose he former, not the latter, and it's entirely your fault.


You forgot to point out that he is lying....

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-12-09 18:22:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Scorch M is long range ammo with typical range of 22 + 5 km.
Barrage M is long range ammo with typical range of 3,9 + 28 km.
…and there's still a difference between short-range and close-range — you chose he former, not the latter, and it's entirely your fault.


If range of long range ammo for short range turret is reduced to 5 km, what you think would happen to short range ammo for short range turret under 4 TDs?

WTB close-range HAM fit for Abso.
Silath Slyver Silverpine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2012-12-09 18:34:41 UTC
Terazul wrote:

But you can forget about doing it like that, either, because you have to deal with missions where you're trying to tank 2k+ DPS while being perma-dampened and your drones won't shoot at anything because you have to keep dancing them in and out of your hull because of AI drone aggro (and, obviously, you have nothing targeted, so you can't just sick your drones on them).

There's "hard", then there's "stupid". Missions are now firmly ensconced in the latter category.


Obviously you're just not dancing your drones in and out enough. L2P, adapt, get a cookie-cutter blitz ship, HTFU and PvP, come at me bro, etc etc.
Tanking whole rooms intended to be handled in small groups is working as intended, despite CCP acknowledging it as a bug. If you enjoy solo content you should just quit, this game is only for nullsec alliances. Quit crying over the fact that the announced changes are nothing like the actual changes.

/sarcasm, if that wasn't obvious.
DOARotadyne
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#65 - 2012-12-09 18:40:41 UTC
To be honest the missions as they are now are fun, or at the very least engaging.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-12-09 18:43:15 UTC
DOARotadyne wrote:
To be honest the missions as they are now are fun, or at the very least engaging.


Yeah, especially when you have to use overtanked dual rep Sacrilege to complete level 3 mission.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#67 - 2012-12-09 18:49:18 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
DOARotadyne wrote:
To be honest the missions as they are now are fun, or at the very least engaging.


Yeah, especially when you have to use overtanked dual rep Sacrilege to complete level 3 mission.

Just how bad are you?
DOARotadyne
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#68 - 2012-12-09 18:50:53 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
DOARotadyne wrote:
To be honest the missions as they are now are fun, or at the very least engaging.


Yeah, especially when you have to use overtanked dual rep Sacrilege to complete level 3 mission.


Or whatever. The point is you have to do something. Before you barely had to pay attention. Now you have to react and constantly adjust.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-12-09 18:52:55 UTC
DOARotadyne wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
DOARotadyne wrote:
To be honest the missions as they are now are fun, or at the very least engaging.


Yeah, especially when you have to use overtanked dual rep Sacrilege to complete level 3 mission.


Or whatever. The point is you have to do something. Before you barely had to pay attention. Now you have to react and constantly adjust.


"Drone user, adapt!"

Just FYI: I prefer alphaing frigates at range so I don't have to use drones.