Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With the ever pending Battlecruiser skill becoming more and more likely to becoming racial, the viability of this idea seems more likely.

So with further ado get your rotten veg and pitchforks ready cause here comes the Dread Guristas Battle cruiser.

Anaconda ( for the purposes of this discussion sudo ship name)

Special Ability: 50% bonus to Assault, Heavy and Light Missile velocity
Role bonus: 99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules. (yes the pirates have a fleet booster)

Caldari Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% shield resistance per level
Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per skill level

Slot layout: 6 H, 7 M, 5 L, 0 turrets, 4 launchers
Fittings: 710 PWG, 440 CPU, 350 CAL
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 6510 / 5915 / 5250
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 2400 / 700 s / 3.43
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 120 / 0.6 / 14010000 / 11.65 s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 400
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 65km / 215 / 7
Sensor strength: 26 Gravimetric
Signature radius: 292

i worked out the values though interpolation, looking at what gila and rattlesnake characteristics comparing them to T1 and T2 variants of the ships as well as looking at what it means to be a battle cruiser.

i worked the values using the EVE HQ ship editor, using the Ferox as the base hull for this made getting the warfare link link bonus already on it. as for the non existent racial BC skills i made them the cruiser race in the editor to make the bonuses work.

to have sufficient progression from the gila to the anaconda i added 1 slot to all (L / M / H) and added 1 more launcher hard point but keeping it med weapons for class consistency.

here is a screen shot of a general fitting (no point, derp)
http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m578/sieonigh/DGferox.jpg

here is a screen shot of the EVE HQ data to be put in for the ship editor if you so wish to look it up for your self
http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m578/sieonigh/anacondaspecs.jpg

So tell me what you guys think and if you would like to have it in game. i will try to do the other pirate factions if i get positive feed back.

if you are having a hard time applying the bonuses they do have to be set up in a specific way. best advise i can give is look at a preexisting ship with same bonus and look how that is done

it looks too tanky tbh this is why CCP are nervous of doing faction bc's i think at best they would give it similar tank to the current drake.
Also droneboats usually have one less slot than the rest.
I also think they will remove the missile velocity bonus on them as the shield resist makes them a brawler so a missile damage bonus perhaps more likely.
The sensor strength and sig radius is too high as-well i would look at the tier3' s for a similar ratio and then add a little on top of that.
It also looks very slow which it wouldn't be for sure but maybe a little heavier on mass as-well.
I would be intrigued to see what the angel bc would look like and the serpentis bc that would be plain nasty.

Looks reasonable to me as a DG Battlecruiser. Gila already out tanks a Drake, so tank looks in line. Ferox model ftw, whoever did the Drake model needs to die, painfully, for the good of humanity!

I want to see faction BCs, bit I am.concerned about keeping them balanced. Faction BSs already dominate PvP, care must be taken so that the BC class ones don't become the new instant win toy.

i share your concern about the balancing, feels like playing with fire putting these together.

just use the cruiser bonuses and add the warfare link cpu 99% and then just a case of more slots more tank higher mass less speed.

same as asking why use a cruiser instead of a bc

They aren't HACS in any way they are cruisers with a twist

i have a cynabal i know where you're coming from but when they do re-balance HACS i suspect they will address the similarities a bit in particular a role bonus for HACS would help.

They are designed to be better than hacs in every way it is silly to think they are just "better cruisers" when they have almost nothing in common with the cruisers. Not to mention their has been 0 talk of a hac rebalance so far.

That is not how they fly. Navy faction ships are straight upgrades from t1. Pirate ships only have minor resemblances to two races flavors mixed together. Now MODULES on the other hand are straight upgrades.

As for pirate battlecruisers they would need to have different roles from the battleships and cruisers which currently mirror each other.