EVE General Discussion

What they are hoping CCP will do is revert it back to the previous way to upgrade space where every system can support a few perma anomaly farming carriers. The problem with that system was because every system was identical, there was no reason to invade and take someone elses space. Outside of moons of course. The idea of the change was starting alliances would setup shop in some of the not so great space and then aspire to take the good from other alliances.

So with these anomaly changes the null bears were left with two choices:

1. Fight for the good space.
2. Create super coalitions and sperg on the forums until CCP reverts the change.

Guess which one they picked?

The null bears claim that only the good systems can support a few guys, but what they don't mention is that is at 300 million ISK per hour. So the idea of doing something else not racking in swaths of ISK like that is a waste of time for them. Funny because I don't mind people farming their hearts out, but when it gets to the point where they are able to do it with virtually zero risk, then there is an issue.

have you ever done moon scans in highsec? last I did, they were loaded full with multiple hi-rarity materials each

Unless you are sitting in a -1.0 system (which most null sec systems are not), the vast majority of anomalies made persistent by upgrading will go undone.

In the system i recently left (a -0.5 IIRC), there was 1 haven, 2 forlorn hubs, 2 forsaken hubs and 10 other anomalies. The 10 others no one ever touch, at best that system could support 2-3 players doing anoms for the isk.

Even after CCPs last "EHP/ISK" buff to anomalies (where many anomalies received more ships to give them comparable "weight" of ships as what you would find in the most run anoms), the only anomalies worth screwing with are STILL Sanctums, Havens, Forsaken or forlorn hubs and MAYBE Forsaken Rally Points if nothing else is available. The previous nerf to sanctums and most havens out of null sec upgraded systems.

Respawning anomalies are nice, but the systems can't support more than a couple dedicate runners apiece at a time, and all one has to do is look at dotlan maps to see which ones have lots of rats killed and plant a cloaky afk guy there. Upgraded system anomaly isk is only slightly better (because of these realities) than flying around empty null sec scratching off "natural" spawning Anomalies.

When you can make almost the same isk flying around empty null sec systems shooting anom rats as you can in a upgraded system that costs your corp/alliance billions, it means the system is both broken and NOT awesome for the grunt players involved.

This is why you see more null sec players with high sec incursion and mission alts than you see ratting in null sec. the rats in high sec missions are INFINITE and you don't even have to watch local.

They don't have to, which is precisely the problem with sov, there is no incentive to defend your space outside of the 1 hour in which it's vulnerable. Coupled with the fact that it's possible to redeploy your entire fleet across the galaxy in 6 jumps, there is effectively no reason to defend anything, thus there are no standing defenses, and weakspots in said defenses to be exploited.

Really the only workable solution I can see to this problem is to reimpliment the old sov mechanics, make outposts destructable, and require supercaps to be present on grid to maintain sov. Depending on how the latter two are implimented, it would go a long way towards stomping out these supercapblob tactics.

i feel sry for todays 0.0 eve players...

So what your saying is that scanning *is* too hard, and that only the very best anomalies are worth doing for the players that are actually in nullsec?

Since it takes a fair amount of character training to be able to do those top anomalies in a reasonable amount of time, why don't you sick your newbies on the smaller anomalies?

Two words "game ruined".

You know the kind of effort that takes to create a decent null sec home system? Nobody will bother if its gonna end anytime.

You can already loose it cus someone elses takes it away, and thats more than nuff.

Theres no way of preventin EVE from bein EVE and if the playerbase decides to go blue, there you go, all blues, end of story, working as intended.

Reality.

No amount of buffing is going to create null sec incursion communities. Losing your ship to other people in route to a null sec anom in a place where you can't dock and can't just go to a nearby trade hub and get a replacement percludes any kind of community formation.

The ONLY way people will do null incursions is if one parks it self on territory they already own.

You are reinforcing my point instead of contradicting it.
There is a lot of potentially profitable content available to nullsec dwellers that isn't being used, because the people who are playing in nullsec don't want to use it.

Even highsec signature sites can be hugely profitable, yet several nullsec people have just chimed in here to say they don't want to bother with them. I guess officer modules aren't expensive enough to make it worthwhile yet >.>