EVE General Discussion

Lately, I farted on a retriever with a damage control. He was the only one who came back to his wife and kids that day.

Here we have the entire reason of this rant full of strawmen. Nullbears do not want High sec players making any isk. They want all the isk to themselves. They are mad because they wanted ganking to become extremely rampant in High sec.

It is all about making their Null sec more profitable while making High sec less profitable.

I dunno, someone made about 40m off of me in bounty Sat

That doesn't say a lot.

You're in a Real corp, person could be at war with you.
You could have been in low or null.
Other guy could have lost 200m in the process.

It doesn't even mean you were even hunted specifically for your bounty.

tbh i'm still waiting for some goons to manipulate the price of some obscure item and claim their own bounties at a profit

I have a feeling the only way this will be possible is if someone gives you all of the stuff you would destroy for free, or you're able to find a bunch of stuff that is selling very far below it's est. value.

If it is possible, I don't think it'll be due to an exploit, but player stupidity.

The problem here is the Top 10 List.

The expansion was correctly called Retribution, because this is what the bounty system was meant to be about, retribution, not some scoring system that will be rigged no matter how you try to fix it.

If it can be done then yes, you can count on it.

A little bit of outside information for those still unaware of this. Goonswarm is not exclusive to EvE; only the "swarm" part is. The "Goons" are, as many already know, a organization within the SomethingAwful community. What you may not have known is that EvE is not the only game they play, past, present or future. There have been other games before EvE that the SomethingAwful people have sicked the Goons upon. The end result is invariably frustrated developers, massive player exodus and sometimes even the demise of the game itself entirely.

That is, by the way, the goal. The Goons don't play online games - they break them. Through any opening left in the design they will sweep in with their massive numbers and set themselves up with a guild, tribe, clan, alliance, or what have you. Working together like army ants they will then systematically ruin the entire game for as many other people as they can. Depending on the integrity of the game's design, that can be a just a few people or absolutely everyone. If it is just a few people then they will lose interest and move on, but the more pain, grief and misery they can inflict upon the rest of the players then the more enthusiastic they will become about their activities.

Needless to say, EvE's potential for griefing, scamming, ganking and tears makes it pretty darn close to the Goons' idea of paradise on earth. But do not think that makes them deviate from their original mission. They have discipline.

To put it bluntly, the only reason anyone in EvE can actually still undock anywhere and/or anytime without instantly being ganked by a Goon blob is simply a factor of game mechanics, map size & manpower. It does not stem from any lack of desire. Had they the numbers, or the map being smaller, they would burn this entire game to the ground until every last non-Goon in the game unsubscribed in anger & frustration. And once that was done they would laugh, high-five each other, and move on to another game the day after CCP announced that they were going out of business. Pétursson's desk plaque goes on the Mittani's mantel as his greatest trophy ever.

Mission accomplished.

The high point of this comedy is, naturally, when CSMs come into the picture and they, in turn, allow for game mechanics to get changed around to their liking.

Vast conspiracy? No, not at all. There is no conspiracy. A conspiracy implies secrets and deception. Goons wear their agenda on their sleeves with pride. Anyone who does not know what their raison d'etre is already simply has not bothered to ask. Plot? There is no plot. Plots imply secrecy. Their plan is secret to no one. Their agenda is about as veiled & secret as a billboard in Las Vegas. That is part of their power-trip: That it does not matter if you know what they are up to because you will still be powerless to stop them.

And they're right.

Im pretty much new around here, but wouldnt a better bounty system be one that a person requests a bounty hunter mission and they are given a random person with a bounty on their head? Say you talk to a bounty mission guy, and ask for one of the hardest targets around (as determined by player SP/bounty). The mission giver gives you a target, and for say a month or so, you have free reign to attack this person whereever they are, until either you kill them or they kill you.

Should the bounty hunter lose, the bounty remains but the ability to freely attack is removed. Make it so that multiple people when picking up bounties can end up with the same person, so it is a bit of a race to see who can claim the bounty first. Should the target be eliminated, all other hunters are informed and must get a new bounty.

This makes a true bounty hunter profession, makes it harder for people with bounties to claim on an alt(might have to put a timer on how often people can get a mission to prevent dropping missions until they get their own), allows bounty hunters legality in obtaining their mark no matter where they hide, and also keeps the system somewhat random in terms of who is out to get me if I have a bounty on my head.

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