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Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#61 - 2012-12-06 19:18:01 UTC
The common man fights on.

Burn these mining oligarchs to the ground. Send them and their massive slightly-too-consistent-for-human-play Hulk fleets running! Take back your belts and make EVE for EVE players, not botters! Place bounties, mine their rocks, bump their ships, shoot if you can! Together we will make EVE a place for all!

The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal

The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
#62 - 2012-12-06 19:18:42 UTC
Dramaticus wrote:
The common man fights on.

Burn these mining oligarchs to the ground. Send them and their massive slightly-too-consistent-for-human-play Hulk fleets running! Take back your belts and make EVE for EVE players, not botters! Place bounties, mine their rocks, bump their ships, shoot if you can! Together we will make EVE a place for all!


Your name is very fitting good sir.

"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#63 - 2012-12-06 19:27:01 UTC
The Bounty System is here to stay.

Why, you ask?

Because even if they put restrictions on who can receive bounties... bounties will STILL be placed on people regardless... just in an unofficial capacity.

How did you Veterans start?
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#64 - 2012-12-06 19:38:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Troll
Enjoy, I just added 300 million to your bounty just because you annoy me.
Have fun.
And I have much, much more ready to be thrown at you, may god have mercy on you and make me merciful.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#65 - 2012-12-06 19:47:40 UTC
And to think, I was jealous because someone else in my corp got a bounty, but I didn't. I guess I must be doing it wrong.

No good deed goes unpunished
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#66 - 2012-12-06 19:49:58 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
If you ever thought you were safe in hi-sec then I really don't know what to tell you other than that you were misinformed.

Indeed. I've died more often in HiSec than in Nul.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Darenthul
Anstard Armory Inc.
#67 - 2012-12-06 19:51:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Darenthul
Maxpie wrote:
And to think, I was jealous because someone else in my corp got a bounty, but I didn't. I guess I must be doing it wrong.


Come on the forums, pretend to speak for a subset of players (when in actuality speak like a heavy stereotype of those players) and say the opposite of their general opinions, spout stupidity and hate towards a new feature players unanimously love across the board. That'll do it.

Now that I say that, man it seemed like a lot of work for him to make us hate him like that.

"I find mining to be an incredibly relaxing thing to do after work. It's like fishing without waking up early. Or cold. But the beer, the beer is the same." - arramdaywalker
Almox
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-12-06 19:52:08 UTC
I love the OP it did make me laugh,

Once I downloaded the updated and got into the game - bounties on my mates to show them I cared lol
They found it funny, and I got some in return..

Just chill it's all good ;)
Ragnaarak
Untied Dysleckticks
#69 - 2012-12-06 19:53:41 UTC
I guess one of the things i find....well bemusing...is I have a 5.0 sec status, have never griefed anyone (unless u count posting on forums with my opinions griefing as one person who bountied me said) and have only rarely been in combat....yet i can have 400M+ in bounties placed on me for no better reason than the fact im a carebear that likes mining, mission running and the odd incursion?....so why should i bother maintaining a 5.0 sec status...will concord arrive faster? doubtful
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#70 - 2012-12-06 19:55:34 UTC
Ragnaarak wrote:
Well cant say im surprised, but wow someone has just added 20mil to my bounty.....shrug I guess voicing an opinion in EVE has a price. No freedom of speech with out reprisal eh?

You've got freedom of speech. You don't have freedom from consequences.

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc
Ragnaarak
Untied Dysleckticks
#71 - 2012-12-06 19:56:07 UTC
HOWEVER....i must say its very encouraging to see so many people actually have and opinion, and really do take an interest in the game....i guess in the long term the bounty concept is something we all just need to adjust too and live with right?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#72 - 2012-12-06 19:56:40 UTC
Do you think that having a 5.0 sec status should earn you special treatment in a positive sense?

Do you then conversely believe that having a -10 sec status should earn you special negative treatment?

Please answer in full and provide reasoning as to why this should be so, tying it into the fact that this is a multiplayer sandbox game?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#73 - 2012-12-06 20:00:02 UTC
Ragnaarak wrote:
I guess one of the things i find....well bemusing...is I have a 5.0 sec status, have never griefed anyone (unless u count posting on forums with my opinions griefing as one person who bountied me said) and have only rarely been in combat....yet i can have 400M+ in bounties placed on me for no better reason than the fact im a carebear that likes mining, mission running and the odd incursion?....so why should i bother maintaining a 5.0 sec status...will concord arrive faster? doubtful



Yup. High Sec status offers no benefits in any way shape and form any longer. Why bother with missions at all now. They are too low paying for the 3 year player. And waste time away from Marketing and other activities.

I should start just randomly ganking people I put bounties on in High Sec. I can go as far down as -.44 and still operate in my High Sec area, and why not.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
#74 - 2012-12-06 20:01:07 UTC
Ragnaarak wrote:
I guess one of the things i find....well bemusing...is I have a 5.0 sec status, have never griefed anyone (unless u count posting on forums with my opinions griefing as one person who bountied me said) and have only rarely been in combat....yet i can have 400M+ in bounties placed on me for no better reason than the fact im a carebear that likes mining, mission running and the odd incursion?....so why should i bother maintaining a 5.0 sec status...will concord arrive faster? doubtful


Bounties aren't reserved for the "bad" people.

Think about it this way, if you were an allstar pirate hunter, don't you think that the pirates would like to see you gone? Maybe go so far as to put a bounty on you?

I'm not saying that anything like that is the reason and the truth may be that people just hate miners (or you specifically) and want to see them gone. But either way, I don't think that you should look at bounties as they are only for the "bad" people - they are for anyone who someone wants to see gone.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#75 - 2012-12-06 20:01:22 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Ragnaarak wrote:
I guess one of the things i find....well bemusing...is I have a 5.0 sec status, have never griefed anyone (unless u count posting on forums with my opinions griefing as one person who bountied me said) and have only rarely been in combat....yet i can have 400M+ in bounties placed on me for no better reason than the fact im a carebear that likes mining, mission running and the odd incursion?....so why should i bother maintaining a 5.0 sec status...will concord arrive faster? doubtful



Yup. High Sec status offers no benefits in any way shape and form any longer. Why bother with missions at all now. They are too low paying for the 3 year player. And waste time away from Marketing and other activities.

I should start just randomly ganking people I put bounties on in High Sec. I can go as far down as -.44 and still operate in my High Sec area, and why not.


You can actually go to -1.99. Happy to help!
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2012-12-06 20:04:33 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Toroup wrote:
Maybe it was another miner looking to eliminate competition - that's what is great about the system - you can actually use it for a lot of different reasons.



What 'competition' ? There are plenty of Rocks (and Ice) in High Low and Null and WH's. There is no shortage and no reason to use it for just angering the Local Corps around one.

Industrialists don't tend to think that way.




I like to shoot fat rocks in fat belts. That way I get fewer partial cycles, less use on my T2 crystals, and need to move the fleet less often.

I can't mine fat rocks in fat belts if every time I try to let a belt go fallow for a couple days to grow, you are coming in and mining it out.... You do that, then I come back and... what the heck. All the rocks are still small?!

Oh, then you are putting my miners that you stole from my belts, up for sale in my station, for less then my sell orders.

Get out of my system, stop mining my rocks, and stop undercutting my mineral sell orders, or I'll bounty you big time.



If we caught people mining in our system, we'd downgrade to t1 crystals, then shoot the same rocks, short cycling the strips (stopping them after 1/4 to 1/3rd cycle. Leave the rock tiny so that they'd get a couple hundred M3 instead of 1700 M3 when their strip cycled. It would then either degrade into a short-cycle battle, or they'd move on.

Now I can just threaten them with a few billion ISK corp/allaince bounty. And if they do not leave, follow through with it. Then, they can counter with a bounty... then we both downgrade from hulks to covetors, and return to short-cycle wars.
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#77 - 2012-12-06 20:54:41 UTC
Hi,

I just removed a lot of trolling and off-topic borderline content; please remember to remain civil.

Thread re-opened but any further derailment will be dealt with more strenuously.


[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#78 - 2012-12-06 20:58:51 UTC
Ragnaarak wrote:
Bounty system is going out of control.

Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.

Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".

Yes i know a bounty doesnt mean u can be attacked without concord intervention in hi sec but its yet another annoyance from those that only see EVE as another 1st person shooter.

Cheers for making the game a little less appealing to a person that likes the industrial side of the game.


Surely the spike in ship destruction can only be good news for the mineral supply community?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#79 - 2012-12-06 21:00:59 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ragnaarak wrote:
Bounty system is going out of control.

Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.

Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".

Yes i know a bounty doesnt mean u can be attacked without concord intervention in hi sec but its yet another annoyance from those that only see EVE as another 1st person shooter.

Cheers for making the game a little less appealing to a person that likes the industrial side of the game.


Surely the spike in ship destruction can only be good news for the mineral supply community?

People mine minerals still?

Who knew!

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#80 - 2012-12-06 21:05:15 UTC
The downtrodden need to wear their shame proudly. Own it and it loses it's stigma.

Unite, miners. Brothers and sisters of bounties.

Undock with pride knowing you are the hated of EVE and revel in your infamy.

Mr Epeen Cool