EVE General Discussion

I'd be very disappointed if they did remove it, as it adds a new greed/danger,risk/reward action between players. Does loyalty come before cash?

True, but didn't the person also have to have the proper standing in order for you to put a bounty on them, or you had to have a killright or somehting.

Which meant that previously you could only bounty a criminal. In that regard there was a reason.

Which is what some of the risk averse want, and not the point of a bounty.

It's not just the risk-averse.

"Wanted" is the kind of thing you put on a poster with a portrait of someone who did something bad. Someone with a warrant (even if the "crime" was a "harmless" one, like not showing up in court for a traffic ticket). But with the current mechanic, you can have someone with +5.0 standing that nobody has killrights on and a "Wanted" under his name, and at the same time someone with -10.0 standing, dozens of killrights and no bounty or "Wanted" under his name. I'm sorry, but to me this just makes no friggin' sense whatsoever.

And for the record, I'm not terribly risk-averse, and I do have a bounty on me.

Every time I see a pilot that doesn't have a bounty in a hauler flying past me, I throw a small bounty on them. I don't care who they are, where they're from, or where they're going. I just want my overview painted black...

It's a game. You need some means of presenting information, that's all the "wanted" label is.

It's not intended as a record of crminal action, it's has nothing to do with anything you've done or your sec standing.


Wanted does not have the same connotation in EVE in the real world, even though in the real world there peole that are wanted who are not criminals. Some people just need to get over it. If I want to know who is wanted I look at the bounty list, and the bounty list isn't there for criminal acts.

I'll look at your sec standing if I want to know if you do "bad" things.
And to be honest, ganking a miner in high sec should increase your sec status. High sec miners are worse than criminals, gankers don't hurt my business in null; high sec miners do.

This is the wild west, and you don't need to be a bank robber to have a wanted poster hung up.
Some people have to learn to accept that that is the nature of the game they choose to play.

You can loot my corp wallet or scam me or bump my mining barge and have a perfect +5.0 sec

Stop extrapolating assumptions from RL to EVE. Negative sec means CONCORD doesn't like you and wants you dead. a bounty and a "wanted" blaze means a player doesn't like you and wants you dead. It really is that simple.

You have to wonder if this actually made sense to him at some point, or if he was just looking for an excuse (and someone else to blame).

This is kind of terrible, but on the other hand comedy gold

Yeah... what we need is more reason to be suspicious of that new player that wants to join our corp... he may be a griefer looking to awox us for bounty.

That will make it easier for new players to join up with a good corp.

People already complain that it is hard to get new players integrated into the game quickly, and corp on corp bounty payout just makes that worse.

Not sure this is accurate, on either point.

1) Before retribution, you had to have a sec status below -1 to have a bounty put on you.

2) For cheap ships, the bounty payout is so small ( (destroyed value - max insurance) * .2) that people won't put a whole lot of effort into tracking someone down to kill them for bounty, only to find them in a firg, and now they have to suicide gank just to collect 30K bounty.

You couldn't put a bounty on anyone before, and I'm not sure that getting everyone into cheap ships so people won't bother attacking them for tiny bounty means "working as designed".