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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#181 - 2012-12-10 10:45:30 UTC
Ragnaarak wrote:
Bounty system is going out of control.

Woke up this morning to find that some person with a hatre for miners, and lets not forget "no miners no ships", decided to put bounty on all miners and their corps in the system we use.

Bounties need to be re addressed so that the person placing a bounty on an entity NEEDS a decent reason other than "Oh what the F**K, ive made a **** ton of ISK so why not use this new Griefing technique handed to me by the game makers".

Yes i know a bounty doesnt mean u can be attacked without concord intervention in hi sec but its yet another annoyance from those that only see EVE as another 1st person shooter.

Cheers for making the game a little less appealing to a person that likes the industrial side of the game.


remember when miners used to smugly brag about how bounties would cripple the meanie heads who interfere with them

ahahahahahah

delicious tears. Throwing a few billion of my own into the bounty pool too because I can
Kaylyis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2012-12-10 10:50:20 UTC
Read the OP, skipped to the end.

Education time if someone hasnt said it already.

Another indy corp wants you out of their belts, and wants to thin out their competition.

They are hoping the gankers will start drooling at indys in expensive mining ships that will pay out enough to replace lost dessies.

Welcome back to EVE. the bounty system was not created to make you feel safe.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#183 - 2012-12-10 10:53:07 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
It should be obvious now to everyone that various nullsec CSM reps arranged for this new bounty system for the expressed purpose of allowing their superior, sov-generated income fountains to be used to eliminate their hisec mining competition. Rather than do the ganking directly themselves, they can simply throw money at it and let others do it for them.

Naturally they suffer no fear of reprisal, because they are placing their bounties through temporary alt characters, and regardless there is no way the disorganized mass of independent hisec miners can match them ISK for ISK should they choose to get into a bidding war with the nullsec alliances behind the movement.

In the end, this change is no different than any other: Another thinly veiled push by nullsec CSMs to drive more players out of hisec and into nullsec, where they can either bend their knees to their new overlords (it's all about the e-peen, after all) or be instantly reduced to cheap blob-feed. While this has always been the case with their agendas, this one in particular gives them the power to extend their projection of force into hisec areas that were previously beyond their grasp.

I would say that they obviously don't realize is that neither their desired results - more servants or more targets - are actually going to happen and in the end all that they are actually going to accomplish is for CCP to start losing subscribers. I would say this except that, in all likelihood, they do realize it and simply don't care. Such is the weight of their egos that they'd they rather have no game at all than bear the agonizing horror of a game where others are allowed to play how they want to.

So yes, the bounty system is indeed working as intended. The problem is that what was intended wasn't made obvious until it was too late. It was marketed as a way for those without good PvP skills to deal with all the bullies of EvE, but in reality it turned out to be nothing more than another tool for the bullies.


Ahahahahahhahahahaha what is the conspiracy theory.

I should keep a checklist of horrible strawman arguments or flat out nutjob conspiracy links that these posts tick.

Shadowy CSM Overlords: Check
Nullsec Agenda: Check
CCP losing subscribers: Check
My sandbox is the only right sandbox: Check
PvP Bullies: Check

This post is the Fox News of GD.

I just dont know why the bounties on the Null sec corps are not higher.

It would make a good income stream for Null sec pilots as well as allowing people like Lady Katherine Devonshire to vent.

2 birds with one stone.


Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat.


ICEBURN.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#184 - 2012-12-10 10:53:59 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat.

Must be a perspective thing.

Mine is at 310 mill and to be honest I don't know if I would go out of my way for that pittance.


I'm not even at 4 mill, I need to up my game Sad


I can put some on you later if it makes you feel better?
CaiIyn Dove
DMoney Corp
Fraternity.
#185 - 2012-12-10 10:58:25 UTC
Kaylyis wrote:
the bounty system was not created to make you feel safe.


This.

When there is war dec mechanism for corporations in high-sec, the bounty system will be what equivalent for individuals. Fair enough and even too easy for people to actually get rid of.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#186 - 2012-12-10 11:08:32 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat.

Must be a perspective thing.

Mine is at 310 mill and to be honest I don't know if I would go out of my way for that pittance.


I'm not even at 4 mill, I need to up my game Sad


I can put some on you later if it makes you feel better?



It would, thank you ♥

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GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#187 - 2012-12-10 11:14:38 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Because Lady Katherine Devonshire thinks that 1 mill is a pretty good bounty for shooting a player - after all it's a top bounty for a rat.

Must be a perspective thing.

Mine is at 310 mill and to be honest I don't know if I would go out of my way for that pittance.


I'm not even at 4 mill, I need to up my game Sad


I can put some on you later if it makes you feel better?



It would, thank you ♥


All my ♥'s to you Malcanis
Keno Skir
#188 - 2012-12-10 12:22:31 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
You do understand that if you just tanked the ******* ship, and actually paid attention, no amount of bounty would make you worth shooting in high sec.


Not empty quoting. Seriously mining folk read that again.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#189 - 2012-12-10 12:30:15 UTC
If I could afford it, it'd be my policy to slap a hundred million on EVERYONE who whines about having a bounty.

problem is, there are so many that even if I only settled for ten million I'd go bankrupt inside a week,

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Laurinius
Xynodyne
The Initiative.
#190 - 2012-12-10 12:36:50 UTC
I don't think that the new bounty system requires a change, it's not like it's a big deal. When someone blows up someone with bounty on him he gets only a percentage of the kill value as bounty (you could say a small bonus), so I doubt that someone gets killed just because he has bounty on him.

The only thing I could(!) think of would be some kind of "grace period" for new/trial characters, so that you could not place bounty on new players for a month if they did not commit any crimes. So that new players would not be scared off because they might not know what having a bounty on them really means.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2012-12-10 12:36:57 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
You do understand that if you just tanked the ******* ship, and actually paid attention, no amount of bounty would make you worth shooting in high sec.


Not empty quoting. Seriously mining folk read that again.


I find that the message is best hammered in with 800mm repeating artillery.
Ryhss
#192 - 2012-12-10 12:50:46 UTC
I thought you needed kill rights in order to place a bounty in the first place? Or can you put bounty on someone just because?

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#193 - 2012-12-10 12:53:57 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
I thought you needed kill rights in order to place a bounty in the first place? Or can you put bounty on someone just because?


Bounties can be placed on anyone, at any time.
Frying Doom
#194 - 2012-12-10 13:01:22 UTC
GallowsCalibrator wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
I thought you needed kill rights in order to place a bounty in the first place? Or can you put bounty on someone just because?


Bounties can be placed on anyone, at any time.

You can place bounties on people for horrible crimes
Like:

  • Being a goon
  • Flying Minmatar
  • Failure to spel correctly
  • Talking in the help channel
  • Breathing
  • And many other horrible crimes


Bounties allow us to cause trouble for anyone who isn't great, eg..everyone but me but if I annoy myself I can even bounty myself Big smile

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
SaKoil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#195 - 2012-12-10 13:06:20 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
You do understand that if you just tanked the ******* ship, and actually paid attention, no amount of bounty would make you worth shooting in high sec.


Not empty quoting. Seriously mining folk read that again.


Asking miners to pay attention instead of afk-botting is outrageous harassment. Miners are entitled to generating isk while afk, it is common knowledge.
Nyaris Wolfe
SHUT UP SEV
#196 - 2012-12-10 13:11:37 UTC
So, not sufficing with bumprage we now get Miners with Bountyrage.

Paging James315!

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#197 - 2012-12-10 13:12:39 UTC
Ragnaarak wrote:
and lets not forget "no miners no ships"


Another miner with inflated self-importance.

1. Do you think you are unique?
2. Do you think you are not replaceable?
3. Do you realize that rat loot can be reprocessed for minerals, too?
4. Do you really, honestly think that PvPers can't make their own ships?

You forget that most PvPers started off life as miner/industrialists. The difference between me and you is that you can only do one thing, and you think you're special. I can do what you do, as well as fight. And I know I'm not special.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#198 - 2012-12-10 13:19:40 UTC
You want to know another reason this is awesome?

Someone in a random alt we've never heard of slapped my alliance with a 2 billion ISK bounty, making us the #8 most wanted alliance in the game (not bad for a bunch of Sansha's Nation RPers!).

We have gotten so many fights since then. We head out in cruisers, and with the 20% bonus for killing us, people are much more willing to undock and come after us where they would have been running away before. I have had so much fun this weekend over this.
GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#199 - 2012-12-10 13:53:56 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
You want to know another reason this is awesome?

Someone in a random alt we've never heard of slapped my alliance with a 2 billion ISK bounty, making us the #8 most wanted alliance in the game (not bad for a bunch of Sansha's Nation RPers!).

We have gotten so many fights since then. We head out in cruisers, and with the 20% bonus for killing us, people are much more willing to undock and come after us where they would have been running away before. I have had so much fun this weekend over this.


:hifive:
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#200 - 2012-12-10 15:09:22 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Gotch Urarse wrote:
Maybe not the right place, but in addition to 'place bounty' button next to 'like', they need to include your current bounty under name/corp/alliance.


supporting this


ditto

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