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Introducing the New Order

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#41 - 2012-12-17 13:27:46 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Bruno Mussolenth wrote:
Those 10,000,000 ISK you are demanding from each miner may well go to a bounty placed on you. Definitely a better way to spend one's money.


Makes for a better movie, too.

This is probably why James315's personal bounty is well past the one billion ISK point already and he's currently in a corporation consisting of exactly himself.

Not that he doesn't have plenty of flunkies and alts doing his bidding, but it's obvious that there's already so much heat on him that he's being forced to lead through proxy. Rather than proudly serving under his banner they're scattered to the winds and working more or less independently to make smaller targets of themselves.

Which is, if you think about it, pretty much how any halfway sensible terrorist group operates - his included.


I've seen the saviour freely and proudly roaming Kamio and Halaima. He does not shy away from the challenges and threats posed to him, none of the New Order do. Spreading such blatantly false propaganda and attempting to label us as "terrorists" because we challenge your illegal, immoral bot-aspirancy is futile, no one falls for it.
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-12-17 17:20:06 UTC
Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#43 - 2012-12-17 17:22:51 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms.

'Carebear' is New Order terminology for a capsuleer who spends his (or her) time in solitary, peaceful conditions, relying on established government to protect them from anything they don't like.

As for 'bots' and 'alts', I can't help you there.
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-12-17 18:24:45 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms.

'Carebear' is New Order terminology for a capsuleer who spends his (or her) time in solitary, peaceful conditions, relying on established government to protect them from anything they don't like.

As for 'bots' and 'alts', I can't help you there.


And what is wrong with living in peaceful, solitary conditions?

I think your friend may need to be checked by a medical facility for a case of capsuleer dementia.
the sybian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-12-17 20:19:51 UTC
NCMs (non compliant miners) need to purchase a miners permit from a Knight of the New Order. The cost is 10 mill praise be to James 315 Bringer of the Light and all the people said Amen.
Misha M'Liena
Rui Freelance Mining
#46 - 2012-12-17 22:30:44 UTC
I have noticed the New order. And the effect a wardec has on your savior. He just disbands his corp and remakes it, Then claims victory. Nice touch. For a coward. Yup i said it.

Misha.

Not as innocent as she appears.™  

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#47 - 2012-12-17 22:46:35 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
Excuse me but, what is a "bot" or a "carebear?" I've never heard of these terms.

'Carebear' is New Order terminology for a capsuleer who spends his (or her) time in solitary, peaceful conditions, relying on established government to protect them from anything they don't like.

As for 'bots' and 'alts', I can't help you there.


Bot is a colloquialism for capsuleers who have, or attempt to, replace parts (or all) of their own biological systems with automated systems and artificial intelligences. They either willingly replace their minds or they otherwise erode as a result of the procedures, they become mindless zombie like automatons. The New Order have studied many of these specimens, but we have yet to learn of their true intent. The obvious, short term effect they have is what they are doing to industrialists across new eden, who cannot compete with the tireless, inhuman drone scourge ravaging systems and leaving them desolate.
Lin Suizei
#48 - 2012-12-18 00:23:43 UTC
Tali Ambraelle wrote:
And what is wrong with living in peaceful, solitary conditions?

I think your friend may need to be checked by a medical facility for a case of capsuleer dementia.


Nothing is "wrong" with living in peaceful, solitary conditions. Miners who mine in accordance with the New Halaima Code of Conduct are free to spend as much time in peaceful, solitary conditions as they see fit. We offer this choice freely to all residents of high security space. While many have seen the light and now mine peacefully, uninterrupted by either bump or gank, many others continue to be belligerent undesirables in our space, and continue to violate the Code.

For these wayward souls, we have no remaining option but to destroy their ships. We do not wish them violence - indeed, we extend to them the offer of friendship - but they actively refuse to embrace the Order and it's Code, and in doing so, force us to strike them down. In this, we serve a similar role to CONCORD and the DED - both as protectors of high security space, and consequences for code violators.

Indeed, it is our enemies who require the services of a medical professional to check for capsuleer dementia - their actions more closely mimicing that of the rampant Drone or heavily-damaged True Slave than the capsuleer like you or I, Ms Ambraelle.

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.

Lin Suizei
#49 - 2012-12-18 00:48:30 UTC
Misha M'Liena wrote:
I have noticed the New order. And the effect a wardec has on your savior. He just disbands his corp and remakes it, Then claims victory. Nice touch. For a coward. Yup i said it.

Misha.


Misha,

Why do you argue that James 315 is a coward? This is clearly an untruth most vile.

When has James acted in a cowardly manner? Has James 315 ever hidden his ships from attack? From what I have seen, he (and many other Agents of the New Order) has flown his ships proudly and in the open. Never has he (or any other Agent) forbidden anyone from firing upon him if he disagrees - instead, it is our enemies who are afraid, afraid of the retaliation of CONCORD, afraid of their own failure, afraid of putting action behind their idle threats. Are such individuals even deserving of the name "capsuleer"?

How can you accuse James 315 of cowardice, when he proudly flies his ships in the open, while our enemies are consistently too afraid to attack the individual upon whom their vitriol is heaped?

Lin

Lol I can't delete my forum sig.

Erika Mayne
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-12-21 01:38:01 UTC
An update on the New Order's progress in the re-subjugation of Kamio: we have recently reached the milestone of 60 billion ISK in miner assets destroyed!

Truly, the reformation is unstoppable.

[center]Proud servant of the New Order.

www.MinerBumping.com[/center]

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#51 - 2012-12-21 07:16:28 UTC
I've yet to see two of James315's flunkies in the same corp as each other, let alone his own. Does this surprise anyone?

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Shaalira D'arc
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-12-21 08:27:33 UTC
Capsuleers are, generally speaking, selfish in their wants, mercurial in their interests, and fluid in their loyalties and habits. Enforcing a long-lasting behavioral change upon a significant population of them - particularly the mass that dwells in the crowded space lanes of high-security space - promises to be an uphill battle. As such, the scope of the New Order's aims are, at the very least, ambitious.

While capsuleer organizations and associations are common, and their forms too numerous to count, the New Order's approach is certainly novel. From my limited understanding, the New Order does not rely on the traditional structures of corporation or alliance as defined by CONCORD legalese. Rather, it posits a Code of conduct that is both unifying and aspirational, while leaning heavily on a cult of personality revolving around the self-proclaimed savior of hi-sec, James315.

The growth of the New Order's influence is viral in nature. Independent action is encouraged, and one can qualify as an 'agent' simply by taking action that furthers the Code or spreads word of it. 'Compliant' capsuleers add references to the movement in their public GalNet profile, leading to further exposure.

In contour and tone, it resembles a mass movement. More disparagingly, it can be likened to a fad.

The success of such phenomena tends to depend on the charisma and force of personality of the lead figure. There is no doubt that the New Order depends upon the existence and activity of James315. For his part, the Savior produces a regular GalNet feed that provides a great deal of content. On any given day, one can expect several detailed updates on the trials, tribulations and successes of the New Order. This feed has grown quite popular, and the level of activity has much to do with that popularity.

Capsuleers, after all, love to be entertained. Being boring would be the greatest sin that such a movement can commit.

In short, entertaining and fascinating. I will be following the New Order's progress with some interest.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#53 - 2012-12-21 09:21:24 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
I've yet to see two of James315's flunkies in the same corp as each other, let alone his own. Does this surprise anyone?

Should it surprise anyone? As has been stated before, the New Order transcends corporations and alliances.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#54 - 2012-12-21 15:26:10 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Should it surprise anyone? As has been stated before, the New Order transcends corporations and alliances.


Oh no, it's quite clever. If you were all in one place, say James315's own corp, then you'd be too easy to simply wardec. By spreading out all over you make it harder for people to track you down.

Independently operating cells has been the staple of proper terrorist organizations for over three thousand years. Why should your little terrorist organization be any different? I don't expect you to break away from such a proven strategy. It has merit.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Jess Wales
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-12-21 16:41:46 UTC
James and his allusions as an Architect of a New Order is a complete Joke

He has zero effect on game play or the citizens of Eve

( Loser == James && Losers == New Order ) continues to the next line of Code, because he is, and they are.

Out / EOM

Wales

Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#56 - 2012-12-21 17:07:30 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Oh no, it's quite clever. If you were all in one place, say James315's own corp, then you'd be too easy to simply wardec. By spreading out all over you make it harder for people to track you down.

Independently operating cells has been the staple of proper terrorist organizations for over three thousand years. Why should your little terrorist organization be any different? I don't expect you to break away from such a proven strategy. It has merit.

Your comparison to terrorist organisations might have merit if we actually operated in independent cells. We don't. I am employed by Dreddit, while another Agent might be employed by the Zantiu-Braun Corporation. This does not mean that either Dreddit or Z-B Corp are affiliated with or subsidiaries of the New Order. Simply that some members are also Agents.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#57 - 2012-12-21 19:01:11 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
If CONCORD or one of the Empires wanted you to go away, you would do so.


Really? When did the empires finally overcome their fear of capsuleers and the power we wield?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Cynthia Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-12-21 19:21:50 UTC
What exactly is it this "New Order" trying to accomplish?

Post with your lick™

Lazarus Jaeol
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-12-21 19:41:09 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
If CONCORD or one of the Empires wanted you to go away, you would do so.


Really? When did the empires finally overcome their fear of capsuleers and the power we wield?




Open fire in Concord controlled space in the biggest ship you have, and see how easily they destroy it.
Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#60 - 2012-12-21 19:44:59 UTC
Cynthia Gallente wrote:
What exactly is it this "New Order" trying to accomplish?

May I refer you to the OP?