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Gallente vs Caldari update

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Picardise
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-12-05 18:10:11 UTC
Curious for reports on other theaters in the Gallente Caldari war.

Since the sudden FW update a month ago, Gallente has held T4 consistently around 60% while Caldari hovers in T2 around 25%. Caldari recently flipped Vifervaert in Essence, knocking Gallente out of T4.

What other hot spots have you participated in?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#2 - 2012-12-05 19:09:41 UTC
Caldari continue to leave the warzone. They are failcascading. Next question.
Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#3 - 2012-12-05 19:17:25 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Caldari continue to leave the warzone. They are failcascading. Next question.

They dropped us into T3 last night an took a system to boot.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2012-12-05 19:30:34 UTC
In before Damar P

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#5 - 2012-12-05 19:49:43 UTC
Sorry, Gallente are failcascading and Caldari are rolling us over.
Mich Farmer
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-12-05 19:52:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mich Farmer
CCP implemented another Gallente requested buff to their plex farming (as if screwing people over with ninja patch was not enough), Caldari continue to fight outnumbered as everyone and their dog jumps to side with more isk making options. That's about it.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#7 - 2012-12-05 20:04:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Current plex mechanics post Retribution is God aweful. You only need to kill 1 NPC for a medium plex and you get 62,500 LP for a medium at T4 WZ Control. This is even more farming than before. Post patch has seen a huge spike in offensive plexing everywhere. Whereas before it was too hard to take a system, most are saying it's gonna be too easy to take a system now. CCP always goes from one extreme to the other. Never able to strike a balance towards the middle wrt to PVE and PVP.

The lack of NPCs in the complexes means lack of tags which means alot of the FW mods that rely on tags will be much harder to attain thus resulting in a scarce supply of them on the market. People are more likely to use ships as their preferred cashout item than mods as ships don't need tags. One could speculate that more and more people will flock to missions to grab tags but that's speculation right now. If tags rise very high in price, then that's a sign that not enough people are mission running. If tags lower in price, then there are enough mission runners.

I'm not a big fan of T2 ships getitng into a medium. It's not so much about the AHAC gang or solo deimos coming in to fight you. Because you rarely see those anymore. It's more about the cloaky falcon that accompanies the offensive plexer or cloaky recons camping a plex.

I think the buff to ships and crimewatch is hiding the flaws that the newest plex mechanics are showing. Once people get over the newness thing, it will be interesting to see if people want to stick around with FW.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#8 - 2012-12-05 20:39:42 UTC
Mich Farmer wrote:
CCP implemented another Gallente requested buff to their plex farming (as if screwing people over with ninja patch was not enough), Caldari continue to fight outnumbered as everyone and their dog jumps to side with more isk making options READ: GALLENTE FW. That's about it.
Just to clarify. Farming alts should sign up for the Gallente Militia.
Picardise
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-12-05 21:28:51 UTC
Mich Farmer wrote:
CCP implemented another Gallente requested buff to their plex farming (as if screwing people over with ninja patch was not enough), Caldari continue to fight outnumbered as everyone and their dog jumps to side with more isk making options. That's about it.

Weren't the Gallente stuck at T2 before the patch with Caldari at T4, and then through a coordinated effort of militias and deplexing, flip the tables on Caldari by preventing them from blitzing systems after the patch?
Mich Farmer
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-12-05 21:54:40 UTC
Picardise wrote:
Weren't the Gallente stuck at T2 before the patch with Caldari at T4, and then through a coordinated effort of militias and deplexing, flip the tables on Caldari by preventing them from blitzing systems after the patch?


You mean the ninja patch of making plex changes happen month ahead of schedule and then removing the "deep vulnerable" status of systems without any warning whatsoever at weekday notoriously bad for Caldari militia, basicly allowing gallente to uncontest whole warzone in couple of hours?

We all now know what was the "outside force which would make sure Caldari never got tier 5 again" that Gallente players shouted about, few days before the ninja patch happened. And yet people keep saying CCP is not biased in the least.
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#11 - 2012-12-05 22:48:30 UTC
Mich Farmer wrote:

We all now know what was the "outside force which would make sure Caldari never got tier 5 again" that Gallente players shouted about, few days before the ninja patch happened. And yet people keep saying CCP is not biased in the least.


That "outside force".......yea.....we call him 'Chatgris'.
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#12 - 2012-12-05 23:08:04 UTC
Gallente fight as men. Caldari fight as men. Just so happens the Caldari are good at coordinating their plexing fleets. Who knows with the new changes, the momentum seen in Vif could be interrupted with the Retribution changes. Otherwise I'd say it's a hardly fluctuating stalemate.

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die
Abyssum Invocat
Yet Another Tax Haven
#13 - 2012-12-06 01:02:07 UTC
I've seen a lot more Caldari activity in the past two days then I've seen in awhile. I hope you guys keep up the momentum and get back on your feet. To speak for myself, I don't care about the money. I just want enough to keep shipping back up. What I really want are good fights, and I pray that Caldari can take a few more systems back and give those fights to us.
Mich Farmer
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-12-06 09:01:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Mich Farmer
Abyssum Invocat wrote:
What I really want are good fights, and I pray that Caldari can take a few more systems back and give those fights to us.


And why should we give them to you? CCP just threw you another bone after Caldari started to come back,which will kick Caldari back to tier 1 because Gallente get more isk, plexes can be farmed again with impunity and they even increased the number of plexes available per 30 min period.

So exactly tell me, what is there left to fight for since it seems one can get better pvp content with new bounty system than the ****** farmville you petitioned Hans and CCP to make FW into, again. And as always, Bad Messenger was right. I didnt believe him this time but oh he was so right.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#15 - 2012-12-06 09:06:24 UTC
I am happy I am not in miltiia for lps because CCP really gave gallente free isk ... I am just taking it back in loot.

Just message to CSM and CCP - get rid off that Tier system ... it is not working.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-12-06 09:39:17 UTC
So many squid tears in this thread.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#17 - 2012-12-06 10:06:05 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
So many squid tears in this thread.


Many tears indeed. But this new patch really is Farmville. Not sure why Hans nor CCP didn't see this coming. The inferno patch just required you to speed tank. This patch just requires you to shoot 1 rat and anything up to a medium plex can be done in a frig alt with maybe 10 days training or less.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-12-06 11:12:02 UTC
So are we going to see systems flipping every six hours again?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Zoe Panala
Blobcats
#19 - 2012-12-06 11:45:53 UTC
After Blobcats left Gallente Militia, everything started to fall apart. It is only a matter of time before Caldari achieves total victory.
Abyssum Invocat
Yet Another Tax Haven
#20 - 2012-12-06 15:53:58 UTC
Mich Farmer wrote:
Abyssum Invocat wrote:
What I really want are good fights, and I pray that Caldari can take a few more systems back and give those fights to us.


And why should we give them to you? CCP just threw you another bone after Caldari started to come back,which will kick Caldari back to tier 1 because Gallente get more isk, plexes can be farmed again with impunity and they even increased the number of plexes available per 30 min period.

So exactly tell me, what is there left to fight for since it seems one can get better pvp content with new bounty system than the ****** farmville you petitioned Hans and CCP to make FW into, again. And as always, Bad Messenger was right. I didnt believe him this time but oh he was so right.

I didn't petition anything and your persecution complex hardly helps. I was expressing good will. I don't like the new mechanics either. As for why you should "give" me fights, it's because we're all in this together even if we're on opposing sides. Please try to remember that when you feel you've been backed into a corner on the map and you feel hopeless people like me aren't happy about it either. Do I want to win? Of course I do, but not by such a large margin.
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