Ships & Modules

How dare you doubt me.

no need to nerf projectiles tbh. just let them being flexible while blasters are damage kings (atm they just do a bit more damage)

if ACs track too well, then we also need to nerf pulses. they track too well too

jokes aside, it's not that ACs track too well, it's just that blasters have bad tracking.

also since times immemorial I remember AC's having the best tracking of all short-range weapons. the 125mm AC was for a long time (and still is?) the best tracking weapon ingame.

It doesn't makes sense, if you think blasters are the only hybrids and completely ignore using (bonused) drones. If you factor in things like those and (hopefully) light/medium ecm drones (from the new ecm drones hint), suddenly the redone hybrids and new ecm drones would be overpowered on anything but slowboat gallente (and caldari) ships.

Pulse also tracking too well is a point of view that I'm sympathetic to. The Pulse tracking boost may have been worthwhile in the nano age, but ships have slowed, so I think it could be reverted.

Blasters do need more tracking. A lot more frankly, at least 50%. But AC tracking is a separate issue and, IMO, leads to problems that we can't solve just by changing blaster tracking. My worry is that ACs are simply too good at applying damage in the ranges where blasters should be king, and they still will be too good there even if blasters get, say, 50% more tracking and 10% more raw damage. This is a result of ACs' very high tracking, the selectable damage and the favoured fits of shield AC boats, rammed full of TEs and gyros.

The good mobilities of AC boats make them very good at being blasterboats in principle - they have the ability to get to optimal and apply great DPS. Of course, people normally prefer to kite outside web range, but using a AC boat like a blasterboat is an option, and they do it pretty well. Too well, I think. But we'll have to see what CCP proposes.

relative tracking


for the ranges they have, they have awesome tracking.

med and large blasters suffer from bad tracking at the close ranges they operate in so while on paper you are right, in reality you are wrong.

no it isn't.
at the ranges they operate their tracking is quite bad for a supposed point-blank weapon.

AC's get off the hook because their platforms are more mobile and their falloffs give then some advantage, even considering that they do less damage.

pulses, well, by the time blasters start to do more damage, pulses have already ate a good portion of your HP.

case in point: a pulse geddon outdamages a blasterthron around the 7km mark and up, if using MF and AM. Hard to maintain transversal? you don't need to worry about transversal when you have scorch specially when you have the advantage of nearly instant range swapping.

no really, ever used a pulsepoc? you really don't need transversal with that one since you're doing damage from 80km and downwards. 60 if you just use scorch.

and you're doing 500dps with just two HS like that btw.


the geddon trades off a bit of range for even more damage, and a bigger dronebay that can use sentries or whatever drones you want to.


edit: totally forgot to say that I don't mind pulses and AC's are like this. tbh let them be like this.

I just want blasters to kill **** so hard they get blasted to the pre-cambrian ages.

You are posting LIES again, again and again.

NO WAY any blasterboat has ANY tracking issues in its optimal vs similalry sized opponent when same amount of ewar is applied from both sides. Btw only minmatar ships have enough utility/mids to apply more ewar and use their mobility advantage. I can only suggest you : try to use keep at range command if you get tracking issues.

IN FACT, blasterboat can already gain significant advantage using orbit command vs laser turrets /sadly ONLY vs laser turrets/. Using orbit vs ac boats is waste of time. Not only because they track better. Even if they didnt, they still have mobility advantage. Keep in mind, that awesome ac tracking is completely unreasonable, because acs ARE NOT shortrange weapons like blasters and projectile boats in general CAN CONTROL RANGE 90%+ of the time.

Also keep posting that "relative tracking" bullshit while conveniently forgeting the relation to speed/agility/ewar of laserboats. Because they JUST CANNOT KEEP that range to gain advantage from "relative tracking."

Also to your apoc at 80k... wondering why i see more arty maelstroms sitting at 80k these days? Its 11k alpha, 600 dps and selectable damage type? NO! Its because 1337 pvpers like to play underdogs. You know - easy, amarr, caldari, medium, hard, hell, minmatar...

Also show me your geddon fit that outdamages mega from 7k, has bigger dronebay than mega and can kite it. And preferably some gedon that wont get outtracked by mega when it gets to close orbit. Or you are same as lying urman guy, that adjusted his geddon fit for every his post and then after 10 pages managed to finally admit that he used gang bonuses and its ok because it was clear from the start?

Its really terrible how blinded you are and how you are suggesting to continue breaking balance instead of fixing broken things.

Not that if you really understood what is broken about blasterships, we would be leading this debate anyway. Let ccp give your blasterships even 100% more damage, and cyna or vaga will still kite you with just keep at range and orbit. Let them give you 100% more tracking and you will have zero advantage from it vs any ac boat.

Still not getting it or just making smoke on forums so ccp wont "nerf" your favourite pvp instruments?