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Aggroing of drones with new NPC AI....
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#101 - 2012-12-05 02:55:47 UTC
Have you tried fitting a TP or ECM to your drone boat?

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#102 - 2012-12-05 02:57:41 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
What's the weapon bonus for an Arbirtrator? What's the weapon bonus for a Myrmidon?

If I'm in a ship that gives no bonuses to any weapon except for my drones then I damn well expect my drones to do all the work, TYVM.


And i agree.

I was referring to anyone who wasn't even switching targets manually, and being semi-afk while running missions. It would also be something bot programs could exploit.

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Dal Thrax
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#103 - 2012-12-05 03:00:48 UTC
Is the orbit distance on for the drone killing frigs to far to just smartbomb the things then drop drones?
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#104 - 2012-12-05 03:07:08 UTC
Boats that make use of drones should be required to use them to round out their balance and put them on par with their non drone peers. If there was an issue with drone providing too much dps/ewar then nerf them. If the issue was people afk missioning in L4's then perhaps removing the auto aggro so that the pilot has to have a locked target and tell the drone to engage each one.



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Clayten Bigsby
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-12-05 03:10:27 UTC
I want my drone sp refunded as well as any Gallente spaceship command skills. The new changes are a joke. I will be voting with my wallet if you don't make changes or refund my sp.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#106 - 2012-12-05 03:12:56 UTC
Clayten Bigsby wrote:
I want my drone sp refunded as well as any Gallente spaceship command skills. The new changes are a joke. I will be voting with my wallet if you don't make changes or refund my sp.

Thanks

Let's talk a bit about your "stuffs".

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Clayten Bigsby
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2012-12-05 03:14:31 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Clayten Bigsby wrote:
I want my drone sp refunded as well as any Gallente spaceship command skills. The new changes are a joke. I will be voting with my wallet if you don't make changes or refund my sp.

Thanks

Let's talk a bit about your "stuffs".


The one in my pants ? :P
datalost
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2012-12-05 03:16:21 UTC  |  Edited by: datalost
Angeal MacNova wrote:
Boats that make use of drones should be required to use them to round out their balance and put them on par with their non drone peers. If there was an issue with drone providing too much dps/ewar then nerf them. If the issue was people afk missioning in L4's then perhaps removing the auto aggro so that the pilot has to have a locked target and tell the drone to engage each one.





Drone boat DPS will now be much less than other non drone dependant ships. Drones were already slower than a pilot with even skills in another DPS type, for example like missles.

Now they are even slower DPS with all the recalling and relaunching. The way this was implemented seems that CCP just wanted to hurt the AFK missioners, which is fine, but CCP apparently did not care who else got hurt.

If this is not somehow addressed i will be taking all 5 accounts that me and my family have and cancelling. Unless we get the option to reassign our SP that we wasted time on.
Rengerel en Distel
#109 - 2012-12-05 03:23:24 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Have you tried fitting a TP or ECM to your drone boat?


At least on the test server, neither a TD nor a TP was enough to draw aggro off drones. I didn't try every different form of ewar though. Remote repping seemed to be the only thing that had a good deal of success. Of course, that only really works when you're talking about sentry boats.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Tesal
#110 - 2012-12-05 03:33:25 UTC
I'm glad I don't run missions any more.
Phi Nupe
Sunstar Business Ventures Inc.
#111 - 2012-12-05 03:41:55 UTC
Tesal wrote:
I'm glad I don't run missions any more.


Yeah, I stopped a bit back when I realized I could make more money doing other things AND have more fun. Pirate
starbelt stacy
Project-Gonk
#112 - 2012-12-05 03:59:34 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
starbelt stacy wrote:
maybe CCP should just be banning people like you instead of nerfing the rest of the mission running community who actually dont go afk during missions Roll


I didn't do it for very long.



oh that makes it alright then ? ... Shocked
Thiassi Uth'Matar
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2012-12-05 04:04:20 UTC
If this leads to a boost to drones that will make them viable in PvP then I am all for it.
In the meantime however it is gonna impact the income of a lot of missioners and drone producers.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#114 - 2012-12-05 04:04:39 UTC
Suddenly drone durability isnt such a usless skill to have!
Diabolyc
Bunny Mafia
#115 - 2012-12-05 04:08:14 UTC
Long time ago was learning skills, no remaps, dedicated points in skills with only one (of 3) choice of decent attributes, lvl 3 implants for 60-70 mil and lvl1 up to lvl 5 misions...

Now everyone who start eve want to jump on lvl 4 in 15 days.

Cry more...


P.S. Domy with t2 sentry still great dmg and no need to panic your drones will die in 10 sec, but you must explain to your gf/wife why no more sex during your time on eve. Lol
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#116 - 2012-12-05 04:09:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
baltec1 wrote:
Suddenly drone durability isnt such a usless skill to have!



or remote reppers if that drone happy.

And if anything like sleeper ai, as I understand it , that AI loves remote repping. Never been in a wh but from what I gather they are not scared at all to go after logi support of any kind with extreme prejudice. Remote rep on domi to see if that works could be worth a go, at least on sisi. hell even on the production server as I get the feeiling there are some peeps here who don't fit many guns and went full drones.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2012-12-05 04:14:15 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Suddenly drone durability isnt such a usless skill to have!



or remote reppers if that drone happy.

And if anything like sleeper ai, as I understand it , that AI loves remote repping. Never been in a wh but from what I gather they are not scared at all to go after logi support of any kind with extreme prejudice. Remote rep on domi to see if that works could be worth a go, at least on sisi.

From what i understand we didn't get to test the launch version of the changes, but testing prior versions of the AI failed to achieve the desired aggro switch with RR (Maybe not enough rep power?). Not sure if this is the case with the launch version though.
Van Kuzco
Perkone
Caldari State
#118 - 2012-12-05 11:00:27 UTC
I think drone changes should stay but they should eliminate the lag on drone orders. It takes a few seconds for drones to actually be recalled after the order is given. I don't know why they haven't fixed that.
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2012-12-05 13:01:59 UTC
datalost wrote:


If this is not somehow addressed i will be taking all 5 accounts that me and my family have and cancelling. Unless we get the option to reassign our SP that we wasted time on.


All your "family" plays EVE, have PvE as a way of making money, and let you decide for them if they should cancel their accounts? I suspect you have a 1 member family.
Cozmik R5
Chez Stan
#120 - 2012-12-05 13:14:42 UTC
A lot of you have never been in W-space apparently. HTFU!

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