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Are there any Amarrian corporations that reject slavery?

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Harland White
Adventurer's Guild
#1 - 2012-12-04 17:30:25 UTC
As the title says, I'm wondering if there are any Amarrian corporations out there that do not use slavery and/or are against slavery within the Amarr empire. I'm having a horrendous time finding anything about it on Google.

Thanks!

By their fruit you will recognize them.
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2012-12-04 18:40:07 UTC
There have been a couple of corporations which acted towards declared their support for the long term goal of ending slavery in the Empire, usually basing their actions on recent actions of Imperial leaders (Hederian VII's Pax Amarria, Jamyl's 9th-gen emancipation); for a while I was part of one of these (Knighthood of the Merciful Crown, now closed). Keep in mind the words 'long term' there - the Empire tends to think in terms of centuries, not years or decades when talking about major societal shifts. Those working in these positions generally do not expect slavery to disappear in the near future, but at some point farther out which they are now setting the stage for.

There are also probably a couple corps whose members do not use slaves for their immediate activites; though I cannot name any offhand I remember seeing a few before.

Finally, there have been on occasion unfortunate 'sock-puppet' corporations, which seemed to exist for no reason other than to place an Amarrian face on top of arguments identical to those offered by external anti-slavery corporations.



If you are going to take this route as a character, I will offer you three tips I personally consider important:
- Be subtle. Screaming out "SLAVERY MUST END NOW BECAUSE IT IS EVIL" will only result in a lot of eye-rolling from other Amarr. Couch your arguments in personal terms instead - "I find slavery unhelpful because..."
- Keep in mind that slavery is, at least ostensibly, not about economic exploitation or easy access to targets for abuse. It is a religious duty to faithful Holders, and arguing that "it's all about free labor" or similar will again just result in a lot of eye-rolling.
- Understand what is and isn't illegal regarding slavery in the Empire. Freeing slaves, for instance, is not - though publicly freeing a huge number may get your character regarded as deviant by more orthodox Amarr. Actively working to sabotage other Holders' slaveholding, unless they are doing something blatantly illegal themselves, could bring down the wrath of the MIO on you.


If you've got any further questions, feel free to throw me or any other member of the Amarr RP community a poke. A lot of us can be found lurking in the channel 'OOC' ingame.
Harland White
Adventurer's Guild
#3 - 2012-12-04 19:19:36 UTC
Well, thanks for that info, but I'm mostly looking for an NPC corporation to run missions for in Amarr space that has a history of anti-slavery within the empire, even a subtle one.

I prefer to mix my RP into my own little L4 mission world.

By their fruit you will recognize them.
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2012-12-04 19:33:33 UTC
Oooooh, okay. Totally misjudged where you were going with this, heh. Oops

The answer is much more simple in this case, though - no. Every Amarr NPC corporation uses slave labor in some capacity.
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-12-04 22:13:18 UTC
Didn't the Emperor family release all their slaves on account of the Empress's proclamation?
CCP Falcon
#6 - 2012-12-05 12:54:25 UTC
Joint Harvesting is an Amarr corporation that you can read about, if you're looking to hear more about the opposition to slavery within the Amarr Empire.

Smile

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Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#7 - 2012-12-05 16:46:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ssakaa
From the above link:

"Despite their pacifist approach, however, they have experienced occasional threats that have lead to an increased security presence in systems such as Aunenen, Barkrik, and Stirht. There have also been rumors from time to time that Minmatar are planning an uprising against the corporation in the Ani constellation."

Heartwarming to read the latter part of this para. It's not clear whether this "uprising" is a referral to any capsuleer action or simply local reaction, planet-side, but even if it's a nod in the players' direction, that's quite something and a reminder to revisit Barkrik for more of the same.

Thanks, CCP Falcon.

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Joantir Sintar
Hannas Deep Space Probing And Exploration
DammFam
#8 - 2012-12-06 12:26:57 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Joint Harvesting is an Amarr corporation that you can read about, if you're looking to hear more about the opposition to slavery within the Amarr Empire.

Smile



There needs to be MORE opposition to slavery in our own Republic, Even if we free slaves from Joint Harvest transports we get fined by our own customs officers taking them to safety.
Cynthia Gallente
GERAS INDUSTRIES
#9 - 2012-12-06 14:56:26 UTC
Harland White wrote:
As the title says, I'm wondering if there are any Amarrian corporations out there that do not use slavery and/or are against slavery within the Amarr empire. I'm having a horrendous time finding anything about it on Google.

Thanks!

Google? What's Google?

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Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2012-12-25 23:43:55 UTC
Ssakaa wrote:
From the above link:

"Despite their pacifist approach, however, they have experienced occasional threats that have lead to an increased security presence in systems such as Aunenen, Barkrik, and Stirht. There have also been rumors from time to time that Minmatar are planning an uprising against the corporation in the Ani constellation."

Heartwarming to read the latter part of this para. It's not clear whether this "uprising" is a referral to any capsuleer action or simply local reaction, planet-side, but even if it's a nod in the players' direction, that's quite something and a reminder to revisit Barkrik for more of the same.

Thanks, CCP Falcon.


Heartwarming that even the Republic tries to stomp that anti-slavery establishment of the Empire in semi-exile? Maybe. Saves the Empire some trouble, though, for sure. :)
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2012-12-26 00:49:43 UTC
Ssakaa wrote:
From the above link:

"Despite their pacifist approach, however, they have experienced occasional threats that have lead to an increased security presence in systems such as Aunenen, Barkrik, and Stirht. There have also been rumors from time to time that Minmatar are planning an uprising against the corporation in the Ani constellation."

Heartwarming to read the latter part of this para. It's not clear whether this "uprising" is a referral to any capsuleer action or simply local reaction, planet-side, but even if it's a nod in the players' direction, that's quite something and a reminder to revisit Barkrik for more of the same.

Thanks, CCP Falcon.


The uprising is a reference to the COSMOS missions that take place in the Ani constellation.

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Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#12 - 2012-12-26 07:59:20 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Heartwarming that even the Republic tries to stomp that anti-slavery establishment of the Empire in semi-exile? Maybe. Saves the Empire some trouble, though, for sure. :)


Nicoletta!

*shakefist*

Smile

CCP Eterne wrote:
The uprising is a reference to the COSMOS missions that take place in the Ani constellation.


Ah, home sweet fictional home. Yea, it's going to take a lot more than busting a few bestowers and boasting about it on IGS to make any impact in Ani whatsoever. I was being a little naive. With the live events, in 2013, it is to be hoped that the few of us who have an interest there can make something multi-media bells and whistles to draw attention to this fascinating constellation. We can but try, at least.

Sorry to derail the thread further and consider my bubble burst.

"Modern Life is Rubbish"
Luna Mori
AmmuNacionale
#13 - 2012-12-26 10:36:34 UTC
Harland White wrote:
Well, thanks for that info, but I'm mostly looking for an NPC corporation to run missions for in Amarr space that has a history of anti-slavery within the empire, even a subtle one.

I prefer to mix my RP into my own little L4 mission world.



A big salute to anyone who likes to spice their game up by going against the grain. Especially to those who are prepared to find or make ways to overcome any barriers they find.

Some Minmatar missions require the shooting of slavers, blowing up of slave pens, etc, Do Amarrian missions involve the subject of slavery at all?



General Secretary, Ani Tribal Assembly
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#14 - 2012-12-26 13:37:03 UTC
Hey, Luna.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=186318&find=unread

ISD Ezwal wrote:
... But feel free (I even encourage you) to act on the background material and lore! Ultimately, you might even change the lore itself as it is the EvE players that make the stories in and of this game. And you are one of them.


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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-12-26 16:56:08 UTC
Ssakaa wrote:

Ah, home sweet fictional home. Yea, it's going to take a lot more than busting a few bestowers and boasting about it on IGS to make any impact in Ani whatsoever. I was being a little naive. With the live events, in 2013, it is to be hoped that the few of us who have an interest there can make something multi-media bells and whistles to draw attention to this fascinating constellation. We can but try, at least.

Sorry to derail the thread further and consider my bubble burst.


Please don't consider it burst. Ani might not be in the cards right now, as COSMOS missions on a whole are... problematic to touch. But do know that we're aware of the fiction there and its potential for stuff.

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Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2012-12-26 18:17:49 UTC
Luna Mori wrote:
Some Minmatar missions require the shooting of slavers, blowing up of slave pens, etc, Do Amarrian missions involve the subject of slavery at all?


Of course they do! As I do mostly combat missions I mainly know about those missions that revolve around shooting illegal slavers.
Luna Mori
AmmuNacionale
#17 - 2012-12-27 11:55:18 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Luna Mori wrote:
Some Minmatar missions require the shooting of slavers, blowing up of slave pens, etc, Do Amarrian missions involve the subject of slavery at all?


Of course they do! As I do mostly combat missions I mainly know about those missions that revolve around shooting illegal slavers.



Thanks Nicoletta, I genuinely didn't know and was just wondering whether Harland could avoid the subject of slavery in Amarrian space at all. Even if he found a corp with a history of 'anti-slavery', presumably the missions would be the same as all the other local Amarrian corps. He could always decline those missions, if that were the case.

What about Sisters of Eve? Don't they have their own dedicated missions and presumably have offices in Amarr space? There must be Gallente or Minmatar NPC corps operating in Amarrian space? These may be Harland's best options.



General Secretary, Ani Tribal Assembly
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2012-12-27 12:12:18 UTC
I am actually aware of relatively few Amarr missions where you must do anything that would make you a slaver. The biggest one I can think of involving slaves actually has you destroying illegal slavers.

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David Laurentson
Laurentson INC
#19 - 2012-12-27 14:22:09 UTC
Luna Mori wrote:
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Luna Mori wrote:
Some Minmatar missions require the shooting of slavers, blowing up of slave pens, etc, Do Amarrian missions involve the subject of slavery at all?


Of course they do! As I do mostly combat missions I mainly know about those missions that revolve around shooting illegal slavers.



Thanks Nicoletta, I genuinely didn't know and was just wondering whether Harland could avoid the subject of slavery in Amarrian space at all. Even if he found a corp with a history of 'anti-slavery', presumably the missions would be the same as all the other local Amarrian corps. He could always decline those missions, if that were the case.

What about Sisters of Eve? Don't they have their own dedicated missions and presumably have offices in Amarr space? There must be Gallente or Minmatar NPC corps operating in Amarrian space? These may be Harland's best options.





You could always hop over to the Amarrean's greatest allies, the Caldari, who do no slaving.

you might get jammed a whole bunch, but pro-slavery missions shouldn't come up.
Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#20 - 2012-12-27 15:35:03 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:

Ani might not be in the cards right now, as COSMOS missions on a whole are... problematic to touch.


They are, indeed.

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But do know that we're aware of the fiction there and its potential for stuff.


Absolutely -it'll be worth the wait.

Allow me thank you, CCP Eterne, CCP Falcon and your colleagues for giving those of us who are drawn to the eve mythos a real boost of late.

Happy new year to you and yours.

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