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WARNING New flagging system is DANGEROUS for pods!

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Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-12-05 06:13:56 UTC
I Myt Liv wrote:
Wirblewind FROMAN wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
So if you are flagged as a criminal, your POD is too? I don't really see the issue...




Criminal, LE, and Suspect are legal pod kills.



Post proof


So the earlier linked dev post, and patch notes were unconvincing then?

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-12-05 06:20:21 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
There in lies the beauty of it.

Like i've said in other threads. Soundwave wasn't lying, they won't remove ganking. They'll just making being a criminal in high sec as much a pain in the ass as possible.


Something tells me that no, you can not pod a mission runner, just people who can legally be shot in high sec.


CCP is showing how protective they are of hisec macrominers. Soon enough bumping will be bannable, followed shortly by scamming and corp theft.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-12-05 06:24:33 UTC
Andski wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
There in lies the beauty of it.

Like i've said in other threads. Soundwave wasn't lying, they won't remove ganking. They'll just making being a criminal in high sec as much a pain in the ass as possible.


Something tells me that no, you can not pod a mission runner, just people who can legally be shot in high sec.


CCP is showing how protective they are of hisec macrominers. Soon enough bumping will be bannable, followed shortly by scamming and corp theft.


Though the Jita bots will remain, as they will be an exception... Gotta get subs somewhere, right?

Reidar
Eternus3
Gods Holy Light Bringing You're Penance
#44 - 2012-12-05 06:32:49 UTC
I Myt Liv wrote:
Wirblewind FROMAN wrote:

BOOM.

Everyone dies.



Boom nothing.

There is a WorkAround.

Don't get flagged.



Yup lol commit a crime in highsec there are consequences no more easy mode for griefers. Retribution is at hand welcome to the new age of eve! HTFU or GTFO
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#45 - 2012-12-05 06:42:13 UTC
HA!
Hate 101
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-12-05 07:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Hate 101
not a big deal you can go back to null and low grift all you want then null and low will be fixed be lots of new targets Pirate




null and low are set up to ( pvp ) you know on the old server lol
Tiberious Velnoq
Magelair Systems
#47 - 2012-12-05 07:09:03 UTC
Criminal types are all alike. How dare they get in trouble for being bad. Right? Serves them right.

Low and null sec exists for a reason. Drug lords don't setup shop next door to the police station, you know. Can you guess why?
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-12-05 07:13:19 UTC
Tiberious Velnoq wrote:
Criminal types are all alike. How dare they get in trouble for being bad. Right? Serves them right.

Low and null sec exists for a reason. Drug lords don't setup shop next door to the police station, you know. Can you guess why?


Because they'd sell out faster?

In all seriousness, though, this was something, though not 'mentioned,' it wasn't fully explained either. I'm sure there's a lot of tears about podding in High Sec today and will be for awhile, because that's what High Sec bears do. And this is EVE, people will do what they want, 'just for the lulz' and leave it at that.

Reidar
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-12-05 07:15:18 UTC
Wirblewind FROMAN wrote:
I'm not sure if people are aware of this... It wasnt mentioned in the patch notes but if your flagged in ANYWAY shape or form in high sec your POD is also flagged for death.

Just felt id warn the denizens of the forums of this little detail that is slightly important and should have been in the patch notes.

I got a super awesome pod thanks to it!


Wot?

Are you even aware that there are different kinds of flags?

Have you read any of the dev blogs?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Hate 101
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-12-05 07:15:56 UTC
i been poded 4 times today its fine stay on clone with no implants cost nothing
Tiberious Velnoq
Magelair Systems
#51 - 2012-12-05 07:19:02 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Tiberious Velnoq wrote:
Drug lords don't setup shop next door to the police station, you know. Can you guess why?


Because they'd sell out faster?

Reidar


No no. You're thinking about Duncan Doughnuts or Krispy Kreme opening next to a police station.
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-12-05 07:19:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Wirblewind FROMAN wrote:
I'm not sure if people are aware of this... It wasnt mentioned in the patch notes but if your flagged in ANYWAY shape or form in high sec your POD is also flagged for death.

Just felt id warn the denizens of the forums of this little detail that is slightly important and should have been in the patch notes.

I got a super awesome pod thanks to it!


Wot?

Are you even aware that there are different kinds of flags?

Have you read any of the dev blogs?


And as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, a suspect or criminal flag means open season on your pod. Where else you are going with your post, I don't know, since you are only pointing out something that is general knowledge from the Dev Blogs.

Reidar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-12-05 07:19:19 UTC
Hate 101 wrote:
not a big deal you can go back to null and low grift all you want then null and low will be fixed be lots of new targets Pirate




null and low are set up to ( pvp ) you know on the old server lol


so, in english?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-12-05 07:19:59 UTC
Tiberious Velnoq wrote:
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Tiberious Velnoq wrote:
Drug lords don't setup shop next door to the police station, you know. Can you guess why?


Because they'd sell out faster?

Reidar


No no. You're thinking about Duncan Doughnuts or Krispy Kreme opening next to a police station.


*Voice of Homer* Mmm... Donuts...

That kinda sounds good... will have to get a donut tomorrow on my way to school Lol

Reidar
Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-12-05 07:21:47 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hate 101 wrote:
not a big deal you can go back to null and low grift all you want then null and low will be fixed be lots of new targets Pirate




null and low are set up to ( pvp ) you know on the old server lol


so, in english?


Possible translation? You Null/Low bears can go back where you came from and scam/cheat each other all you want. This will fix null and all the bad people will be there, and we can be here in High Sec with lollipops and gumdrop dreams.

Reidar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-12-05 07:25:39 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Possible translation? You Null/Low bears can go back where you came from and scam/cheat each other all you want. This will fix null and all the bad people will be there, and we can be here in High Sec with lollipops and gumdrop dreams.

Reidar


Wow, I didn't know you made this post until I noticed you signed it.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Reidar Oskald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-12-05 07:28:30 UTC
Andski wrote:
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Possible translation? You Null/Low bears can go back where you came from and scam/cheat each other all you want. This will fix null and all the bad people will be there, and we can be here in High Sec with lollipops and gumdrop dreams.

Reidar


Wow, I didn't know you made this post until I noticed you signed it.


I've noticed some issues with the Forums and seeing things not update as fast as one would expect, kind of annoying when trying to follow multiple topics Ugh

Reidar
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#58 - 2012-12-05 08:25:18 UTC
PvP is happening in hisec?

This will surely kill pvp in hisec!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Sum'Mar Raholan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-12-05 08:36:40 UTC
Lovin this. Moar corpses for me to collect.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-12-05 10:12:37 UTC
Reidar Oskald wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Wirblewind FROMAN wrote:
I'm not sure if people are aware of this... It wasnt mentioned in the patch notes but if your flagged in ANYWAY shape or form in high sec your POD is also flagged for death.

Just felt id warn the denizens of the forums of this little detail that is slightly important and should have been in the patch notes.

I got a super awesome pod thanks to it!


Wot?

Are you even aware that there are different kinds of flags?

Have you read any of the dev blogs?


And as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, a suspect or criminal flag means open season on your pod. Where else you are going with your post, I don't know, since you are only pointing out something that is general knowledge from the Dev Blogs.

Reidar

Good, so now if you actually try to steal my ****, I actually have a means to make you pay myself instead of waiting for CONCORD. I like that. However, not all flags will make you pod-killable. Engaging rats won't, for example, and that's what I was talking about. If you want to test this theory, feel free to try to shoot me next time I go ratting. Seriously, if you don't get concorded, I actually have a rather hefty bounty on me placed by people that don't like me disagreeing with them on a forums (it's their new way of throwing a tantrum).

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104