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KOS system doesn't work

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Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-05 13:46:23 UTC
Character with low enough sec status shouldn't allowed into high security empire space at all. I am fine with suicide ganking when character has neutral or high sec status, but it's just bad for the game that -10.00 sec status player can do 50 ganks per day if he wants to.

Concord should terminate their pod and ship straigth away and remove their clone into closest lowsec station without cloning facility.

And no, I can't mine ice.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-10-05 13:57:20 UTC
someone is getting grumpy at the ~dread pirates~ of goonswarm

i'm buying an orca tonight :3:

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#3 - 2011-10-05 13:58:13 UTC
Zenith Intaki wrote:
KOS system doesn't work


Yes, it does. You can kill them on sight.

Quit asking for NPCs to do it for you.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-05 14:00:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Zenith Intaki wrote:
KOS system doesn't work


Yes, it does. You can kill them on sight.

Quit asking for NPCs to do it for you.


This
I think you may get sec status for it too
Quote:
There are also plenty of player characters with bounties on their heads. If you wish to bounty hunt, only attack characters with a security status of -5 or worse (because then CONCORD considers them to be criminals) and only do it in low security areas of space (0.4 or lower). Otherwise, you will be in trouble with CONCORD for trying to take the law into your own hands against someone whom they do not consider to be a criminal (if the character's security is higher than -5), in a secure area of space that is patrolled by CONCORD (if the system you are in is 0.5 or higher).


or maybe not meh...

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-10-05 14:09:53 UTC
funny how CONCORD really protects the criminals not the innocent huh?
Lol

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Yes
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#6 - 2011-10-05 14:10:47 UTC
Pirates are fine.
Ganking is fine.
Both are part of the game.

However, reading these forums of late, it is blatantly evident that an obvious Concord exploit is being abused.
Either CCP chooses to turn a blind eye and leave the code for Concord reaction fully exploitable as it currently is, or they fix it to make it work as it should. The Op makes a valid point.

Seems that a few players are happy to exploit the code in the claim for tears. Go ahead and claim tears, but exploiting code? You are doing wrong and know it. The fact that nothing is being done about it speaks volumes by the very silence in this matter by CCP.

Botting, from what I have been reading, is rife and should be stopped - there just has to be a better way of doing it (stopping it, that is), without exploiting code.

No, I do not mine ice either, nor do I care for it.

In b4 thread is closed.

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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#7 - 2011-10-05 14:33:47 UTC
There is no exploit abuse dummy, CONCORD deals with criminal aggression, they are not designed to completely negate ganks. High sec is not intended to allow invulnerability.

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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#8 - 2011-10-05 14:40:34 UTC
Kitty McKitty wrote:
There is no exploit abuse dummy, CONCORD deals with criminal aggression, they are not designed to completely negate ganks. High sec is not intended to allow invulnerability.


^^This.

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#9 - 2011-10-05 14:41:20 UTC
It is an exploit.

I do not feel the need to start insulting people, Kitty. If you run out of words, try to stop posting.

By insulting others you prove nothing other than your lack of ability to counter with concise criticism.

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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#10 - 2011-10-05 14:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty McKitty
Point out how 'it' is an 'exploit'. Otherwise I will continue to laugh at you for being clueless.

Remove the nasty word 'dummy' and you have your concise response Roll

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Othran
Route One
#11 - 2011-10-05 14:48:32 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
It is an exploit.


I wish you'd run out of words for sadly most if not all of them are drivel.

Just like the quoted text.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#12 - 2011-10-05 14:51:39 UTC
Zenith Intaki wrote:
Character with low enough sec status shouldn't allowed into high security empire space at all. I am fine with suicide ganking when character has neutral or high sec status, but it's just bad for the game that -10.00 sec status player can do 50 ganks per day if he wants to.

Concord should terminate their pod and ship straigth away and remove their clone into closest lowsec station without cloning facility.

And no, I can't mine ice.


Character with such utopian view of a police state shouldn't allowed to post their opinions at all. I'm fine with character posting opinions I like, but it's just bad for the forums that opinions like yours get posted 50 times per day.

Concord should terminate your keyboard and mouse straigth away and remove your account into kugu-tsumen boards.

And no, I can't mine ice either.


P.S. Wow, kugutsumen is censored? Censorship, best ship in Eve!

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-05 15:00:17 UTC
Kitty McKitty wrote:
There is no exploit abuse dummy, CONCORD deals with criminal aggression, they are not designed to completely negate ganks. High sec is not intended to allow invulnerability.

problem is: planes for attack of suicide ganker are invulnerable. No one can really stop him. Only option is: evade of defend.

Isn't it against "high-sec isn't supposed to give invulnerability"?

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-05 15:01:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
From EVElopedia - Security Status

"Once your security status reaches -5 you are considered an outlaw and can be attacked by players anywhere without CONCORD intervention. "

Looks like you have options to me.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#15 - 2011-10-05 15:06:25 UTC
Oh dear, I seem to be upsetting the players who like the exploit just as it is and will say anything to brush away the truth.

Most popular mode of retort among a lot of forum posters comprise of snide remarks, insults and general attempts at belittlement and denigration. I feel sorry for you. I will not enter into further discussion with unarmed folks.

Oh wait, you say "these are forums, that's what forums are for."

" Stop being so self-righteous" So funny coming from the self-righteous Big smile

Please take the bait, you'll just further cement my theory.

I'll leave this thread now and just remark in passing - point proven.

It's an exploit.

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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#16 - 2011-10-05 15:07:33 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Kitty McKitty wrote:
There is no exploit abuse dummy, CONCORD deals with criminal aggression, they are not designed to completely negate ganks. High sec is not intended to allow invulnerability.

problem is: planes for attack of suicide ganker are invulnerable. No one can really stop him. Only option is: evade of defend.

Isn't it against "high-sec isn't supposed to give invulnerability"?


The suicide ganker is not 'invulnerable', and I don't just mean that they lose their ship in the end. Just because miners are MORE vulnerable does not mean killing gankers is impossible.

You also pointed out two methods that can be used to avoid suicide ganking.

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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#17 - 2011-10-05 15:08:57 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:


It's an exploit.



You have yet again failed to point out what is an exploit, and how. 3/10 for the troll effort though.

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2011-10-05 15:09:19 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
Oh dear, I seem to be upsetting the players who like the exploit just as it is and will say anything to brush away the truth.

Most popular mode of retort among a lot of forum posters comprise of snide remarks, insults and general attempts at belittlement and denigration. I feel sorry for you. I will not enter into further discussion with unarmed folks.

Oh wait, you say "these are forums, that's what forums are for."

" Stop being so self-righteous" So funny coming from the self-righteous Big smile

Please take the bait, you'll just further cement my theory.

I'll leave this thread now and just remark in passing - point proven.

It's an exploit.



mommy make the bad man stop

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2011-10-05 15:10:11 UTC
he's exploiting, i just know it!

the people asking what the exploit is are mean too make them go away!

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#20 - 2011-10-05 15:10:52 UTC
Zenith Intaki wrote:
Character with low enough sec status shouldn't allowed into high security empire space at all. I am fine with suicide ganking when character has neutral or high sec status, but it's just bad for the game that -10.00 sec status player can do 50 ganks per day if he wants to.

Concord should terminate their pod and ship straigth away and remove their clone into closest lowsec station without cloning facility.

And no, I can't mine ice.


I meant to stick that in my last post.
Most of you posting here are not reading the "-10" part.
The rest of the stuff you are inventing in your own mind.

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