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herta Shaishi
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-05 13:40:26 UTC

Can someone explain me why would capsuleers go to null sec after the nerfs that CCP has made in null sec in 2011 ?

You can't kill officers in null sec any more - you need to find and form fleets to kill them. Most of capsuleers can't rat in sanctums anymore too. 6/10 plexes have been substituted by crap plexes which gives crap loot or sends to an escalation into hostile regions. So, what is left in null sec? Pvp? Whell, how is it better in null sec than in low sec? Because there are more blobs? Technetium moons? Who gets them? Isn't that just few alliance leaders who may use them for fleets, or may be RMT for their pockets?

So, why would null sec pilots in 2012 go to null sec and fight for anything?
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-05 13:42:29 UTC
because bots do what they are programmed to do

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#3 - 2011-10-05 13:49:31 UTC
Well, it sounds like if a certain alliance has it's way null will be covered from star to shining star with amber waves of Goons that will cut of all vital production then sit there staring at CCP challenging them to fix it.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
herta Shaishi
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-05 13:50:53 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
because bots do what they are programmed to do


May be we should rename null sec as Botland. Cause that is not just the future vision of null sec, but may be already present in some cases.
Zenith Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-05 13:53:59 UTC
herta Shaishi wrote:

Can someone explain me why would capsuleers go to null sec after the nerfs that CCP has made in null sec in 2011 ?

You can't kill officers in null sec any more - you need to find and form fleets to kill them. Most of capsuleers can't rat in sanctums anymore too. 6/10 plexes have been substituted by crap plexes which gives crap loot or sends to an escalation into hostile regions. So, what is left in null sec? Pvp? Whell, how is it better in null sec than in low sec? Because there are more blobs? Technetium moons? Who gets them? Isn't that just few alliance leaders who may use them for fleets, or may be RMT for their pockets?

So, why would null sec pilots in 2012 go to null sec and fight for anything?

Pet alliance member spotted!
herta Shaishi
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-10-05 14:06:41 UTC  |  Edited by: herta Shaishi
No, i am not in any null sec alliance and I don't have any alt in any null sec alliance. Its just discussion for those who have brains, you can move on.

EDIT: Lets say I'm just stupid and can't find any reason to got to null sec.
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
#7 - 2011-10-05 14:06:44 UTC
herta Shaishi wrote:

Can someone explain me why would capsuleers go to null sec after the nerfs that CCP has made in null sec in 2011 ?

You can't kill officers in null sec any more - you need to find and form fleets to kill them. Most of capsuleers can't rat in sanctums anymore too. 6/10 plexes have been substituted by crap plexes which gives crap loot or sends to an escalation into hostile regions. So, what is left in null sec? Pvp? Whell, how is it better in null sec than in low sec? Because there are more blobs? Technetium moons? Who gets them? Isn't that just few alliance leaders who may use them for fleets, or may be RMT for their pockets?

So, why would null sec pilots in 2012 go to null sec and fight for anything?


You just listed all the reasons null sec is going to be in trouble by this time next year if CCP doesn't make some serious changes.


...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-10-05 14:15:30 UTC
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Well, it sounds like if a certain alliance has it's way null will be covered from star to shining star with amber waves of Goons that will cut of all vital production then sit there staring at CCP challenging them to fix it.


This
whats is called DRF or DCF lol whatever its called, Mittani has a great threat about it.
"one of six pilots in eve rigt now are in DCF"
"68% of all nullsec pilots are in DCF"
"DCF controls more null sec than there are systems in high sec"
Id link it but its at the censored site an Id rather not get in trouble lol

so what happens when all of 0.0 is under mittani's thumb?

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-10-05 14:26:10 UTC
herta Shaishi wrote:

Can someone explain me why would capsuleers go to null sec after the nerfs that CCP has made in null sec in 2011 ?

You can't kill officers in null sec any more - you need to find and form fleets to kill them. Most of capsuleers can't rat in sanctums anymore too. 6/10 plexes have been substituted by crap plexes which gives crap loot or sends to an escalation into hostile regions. So, what is left in null sec? Pvp? Whell, how is it better in null sec than in low sec? Because there are more blobs? Technetium moons? Who gets them? Isn't that just few alliance leaders who may use them for fleets, or may be RMT for their pockets?

So, why would null sec pilots in 2012 go to null sec and fight for anything?

i have no ideas what happened in zero-sec.... I still making billions of 10/10 escalations every week. Buying 2-6 bookmarks. And i still sell loot for like 500-510 mils from each of escalation. Mates just got 2nd escalation in 2 days.

Pvp? random rats (sorry, obviously they are neutrals or reds but who really cares?) visit our systems almost every day so you have danger and chance to get fight.

Blobs? Never seen in in legion. Last time i took part in 1 blobs i was in IT defending some system (it is under RA now).

Nothing really changed....

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Mai Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-10-05 14:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mai Kusoni
So for all intents and purposes then null sec is closed to the rest of the game unless you belong to one of those alliances. (Sure you can visit but you cannot live there.) Seriously how do you realistically fix that? Goonswarm holding EVE for ransom, forcing CCP to do their bidding... promoting the Goonswarm agenda?

CCP should have realized that corps/alliances can take over completely if there are no concrete limits and then the game stagnates and interest wanes. CCP painted themselves into this corner and Goonswarm is taking advantage of it.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#11 - 2011-10-05 14:32:22 UTC
herta Shaishi wrote:
No, i am not in any null sec alliance and I don't have any alt in any null sec alliance. Its just discussion for those who have brains, you can move on.

EDIT: Lets say I'm just stupid and can't find any reason to got to null sec.


Well if you insist: You're just stu... nah, you already said it.

If you're not in null sec, how do you know all these terribad things that happened in null sec are so bad? There's money to be made out there, and officers are still soloable if you're more creative than "Warp-in, press F1".

If you don't want to go, then don't.


I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Storm X4
STARK INDUSTRIES.INCX
#12 - 2011-10-05 14:32:53 UTC
herta Shaishi wrote:
No, i am not in any null sec alliance and I don't have any alt in any null sec alliance. Its just discussion for those who have brains, you can move on.

EDIT: Lets say I'm just stupid and can't find any reason to got to null sec.


*Pets him!* Are you a good boy... yes you are... yes you are, awww so cute. I want to so take him home with me.
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-05 14:33:22 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
herta Shaishi wrote:

Can someone explain me why would capsuleers go to null sec after the nerfs that CCP has made in null sec in 2011 ?

You can't kill officers in null sec any more - you need to find and form fleets to kill them. Most of capsuleers can't rat in sanctums anymore too. 6/10 plexes have been substituted by crap plexes which gives crap loot or sends to an escalation into hostile regions. So, what is left in null sec? Pvp? Whell, how is it better in null sec than in low sec? Because there are more blobs? Technetium moons? Who gets them? Isn't that just few alliance leaders who may use them for fleets, or may be RMT for their pockets?

So, why would null sec pilots in 2012 go to null sec and fight for anything?

i have no ideas what happened in zero-sec.... I still making billions of 10/10 escalations every week. Buying 2-6 bookmarks. And i still sell loot for like 500-510 mils from each of escalation. Mates just got 2nd escalation in 2 days.

Pvp? random rats (sorry, obviously they are neutrals or reds but who really cares?) visit our systems almost every day so you have danger and chance to get fight.

Blobs? Never seen in in legion. Last time i took part in 1 blobs i was in IT defending some system (it is under RA now).

Nothing really changed....


thats crap n you know it......... ded plexes very rarely drop decent stuff anymore,,, most of the time its some crappy worthless hardener or an overseer's box.

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-10-05 14:35:58 UTC
Mai Kusoni wrote:
So for all intents and purposes then null sec is closed to the rest of the game unless you belong to one of those alliances. (Sure you can visit but you cannot live there.) Seriously how do you realistically fix that? Goonswarm holding EVE for ransom, forcing CCP to do their bidding... promoting the Goonswarm agenda?


...Goons getting hired to irl positions in CCP
...taking over the CSM
theyre not already doing this?

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Mai Kusoni
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-10-05 14:38:23 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Mai Kusoni wrote:
So for all intents and purposes then null sec is closed to the rest of the game unless you belong to one of those alliances. (Sure you can visit but you cannot live there.) Seriously how do you realistically fix that? Goonswarm holding EVE for ransom, forcing CCP to do their bidding... promoting the Goonswarm agenda?


...Goons getting hired to irl positions in CCP
...taking over the CSM
theyre not already doing this?


And folks want to attribute the loss of EVE subscriptions solely on Incarna? I think not.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-05 14:39:13 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Well, it sounds like if a certain alliance has it's way null will be covered from star to shining star with amber waves of Goons that will cut of all vital production then sit there staring at CCP challenging them to fix it.


This
whats is called DRF or DCF lol whatever its called, Mittani has a great threat about it.
"one of six pilots in eve rigt now are in DCF"
"68% of all nullsec pilots are in DCF"
"DCF controls more null sec than there are systems in high sec"
Id link it but its at the censored site an Id rather not get in trouble lol

so what happens when all of 0.0 is under mittani's thumb?


the entire galaxy gets plunged into a totalitarian hell of misery and fear

~hi~
Othran
Route One
#17 - 2011-10-05 14:43:16 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Well, it sounds like if a certain alliance has it's way null will be covered from star to shining star with amber waves of Goons that will cut of all vital production then sit there staring at CCP challenging them to fix it.


This
whats is called DRF or DCF lol whatever its called, Mittani has a great threat about it.
"one of six pilots in eve rigt now are in DCF"
"68% of all nullsec pilots are in DCF"
"DCF controls more null sec than there are systems in high sec"
Id link it but its at the censored site an Id rather not get in trouble lol

so what happens when all of 0.0 is under mittani's thumb?


the entire galaxy gets plunged into a totalitarian hell of misery and fear


That's something to look forward to then, been a bit too happy clappy lately Lol
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-10-05 14:48:39 UTC
For years 0.0 got by with belt ratting and a few sites per region.

CCP turned 0.0 into a money making machine even more then it was before and then realized they went a bit too far.
So they nerfed it a bit not completely.

Get over it and adapt.

EVERYBODY KNOWS
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-10-05 14:50:00 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
thats crap n you know it......... ded plexes very rarely drop decent stuff anymore,,, most of the time its some crappy worthless hardener or an overseer's box.

well. i have no ideas why you could badly need rare officer module if you can simply buy it in Jita Cool

As far as i know dronelands have never had any "decent stuff" in plexes. Only alloys and T2 salvaged materials. Even radar sites are almost worthless. But when you have money why bother? Just go and buy all you need.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-05 14:54:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
DOH wrong one

EVERYBODY KNOWS
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