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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#61 - 2012-12-01 17:47:50 UTC
Diamond Bull wrote:



Don't mind Tippia. I am sure she has some absurd reason that this is true in her world. It won't make sense to the rest of us but she'll keep spouting it until we stop replying and then pat herself on the back.





I know. I almost always agree with her.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Alara IonStorm
#62 - 2012-12-01 17:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Doddy wrote:

Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?

Because everything is perma camped in Amamake.

* The Gates
* The Stations
* The Belts
* The Planets
* The Moons
* The Sun
* The Anoms
* The Wormholes
* The Exploration Sites
* The Mission Space
* Your Insta Bookmark
* The POS's outside the bubble and spies inside ready to bump you out
* That Safe Spot you made last month. Oh yes. They know about it. They know and are camping it right now... Waiting.
* They are expanding into DUST and they know all the good Camp Sights.
* Outside your CQ standing there just waiting for that Door to open.

Everywhere.Always.Forever.

Amamake!
Doddy
Excidium.
#63 - 2012-12-01 17:48:51 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Doddy wrote:
[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]

Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?


The issue is even making the hotspot.Roll


You have a cloak right .....
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#64 - 2012-12-01 17:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Well, why is everyone blogging the past 2 months about the rampant increase in high sec freighter ganks ?
For the same reason they were blogging about how incursions weren't an obscenely large ISK faucet.

Pohbis wrote:
To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock Blink
Not particularly. Undock, warp, cloak. In total, zero opportunity to lock up, much less scan the ship. Works the same there as everywhere else.

Mag's wrote:
How does not being able to cloak at Jita undock, make the cloak unable to provide scan immunity? Like I said, why would you even try?
Try to scan, you mean? Weeell… sometimes, they just get sloppy, so it's worth a try. It's not like you'll waste a lot of time trying it — the “nuh-uh” is pretty immediate if it won't work. At any rate, it's a pretty academic question since you're able to cloak just as well on the Jita 4-4 undock as on any other (except maybe Jita 4-10), and since it's already impossible to scan anyone sane on any well-used undock ramp, cloak or no cloak.

Diamond Bull wrote:
Don't mind Tippia. I am sure she has some absurd reason that this is true in her world.
Yes, a very simple reason: the stats and killboards of even the most persistent serial gankers show that the number of kills is minuscule and that the chance of being caught is pretty much nil.
Ginger Barbarella
#65 - 2012-12-01 17:50:14 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Well, why is everyone blogging the past 2 months about the rampant increase in high sec freighter ganks ?


Male dogs often have a driving NEED to hump your leg. Same applies to whiners on GD.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#66 - 2012-12-01 17:50:57 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Doddy wrote:
[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]

Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?


The issue is even making the hotspot.Roll


You have a cloak right .....



trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm......Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Doddy
Excidium.
#67 - 2012-12-01 17:52:08 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Doddy wrote:
[quote=Krixtal Icefluxor]

Why would it be a problem in Amamake? Arte you incapable of manually piloting to an insta-undock spot?


The issue is even making the hotspot.Roll


You have a cloak right .....



trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm......Roll


Erm no, you just seem to think people in amamake can see through cloaks or something.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#68 - 2012-12-01 17:52:12 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Well, why is everyone blogging the past 2 months about the rampant increase in high sec freighter ganks ?
For the same reason they were blogging about how incursions weren't an obscenely large ISK faucet.



But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#69 - 2012-12-01 17:53:33 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm......Roll


Erm no, you just seem to think people in amamake can see through cloaks or something.



Time for today's Block #2.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#70 - 2012-12-01 17:56:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data.
…that show an increase from nil to nil times two. End result: the chance is roughly nil. Oh, and there was no lack of legitimate incursion data — just a lack of data showing the message they wanted to convey, which is why they had to get the word out in an attempt to create an alternate reality.
Doddy
Excidium.
#71 - 2012-12-01 17:58:08 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Doddy wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


trolling. He's doing it in another Thread as well atm......Roll


Erm no, you just seem to think people in amamake can see through cloaks or something.



Time for today's Block #2.


I get it, "anyone who shows i am wrong shall be blocked so i can still be right".
Alara IonStorm
#72 - 2012-12-01 18:03:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data.

Know what I see when I look at that board. Cap Ship kills flanking Freighters 2+ to 1. Is there a Capital Ship Death epidemic too?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#73 - 2012-12-01 18:05:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Tippia wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
But this time there are actual proof KillMails, unlike the lack of legitimate Incursion data.
…that show an increase from nil to nil times two. End result: the chance is roughly nil. Oh, and there was no lack of legitimate incursion data — just a lack of data showing the message they wanted to convey, which is why they had to get the word out in an attempt to create an alternate reality.


I dunno. I don't see nearly as many freighters as I used to , if so , the propaganda campaign must have been successful.

But yeah, that whole Incursion Thing was a crock.

edit: anyway, we are sidetracked from, what, Blockade Runners ?? Smile

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-12-01 18:06:26 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Bennet Am wrote:
Because now they can scan me and see that I'm empty or hauling 80 million in crap. After the expansion, I might be smuggling 100 PLEX.


and just like now, they will never know because you will be cloaked and align almost as fast as a frigate.


This is negated at station undock.


which is why you make undock bookmarks.



Try that in Amamake Smile


what station?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#75 - 2012-12-01 18:07:54 UTC
Andski wrote:


what station?


I can't touch this one...........

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Mag's
Azn Empire
#76 - 2012-12-01 18:11:55 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mag's wrote:
How does not being able to cloak at Jita undock, make the cloak unable to provide scan immunity? Like I said, why would you even try?
Try to scan, you mean? Weeell… sometimes, they just get sloppy, so it's worth a try. It's not like you'll waste a lot of time trying it — the “nuh-uh” is pretty immediate if it won't work. At any rate, it's a pretty academic question since you're able to cloak just as well on the Jita 4-4 undock as on any other (except maybe Jita 4-10), and since it's already impossible to scan anyone sane on any well-used undock ramp, cloak or no cloak.
Indeed. I was trying to get them to the point, where they understood that fact. Big smile

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#77 - 2012-12-01 18:15:28 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I dunno. I don't see nearly as many freighters as I used to , if so , the propaganda campaign must have been successful.
Of course not. The freighter pilots are scaring themselves with stories about nasty evil pirates lurking in the shadows. Meanwhile, anyone with a clue makes bank from getting more bulk orders on the market with less competition. Twisted

Quote:
edit: anyway, we are sidetracked from, what, Blockade Runners ?? Smile
I just see it as compensation for losing my silly-good safe Orca, so it's all good. I certainly understand the “bah, buff idiocy why don't you?!” sentiment since it definitely does that, but still… I see the BRs as a better option than DSCs since they have a lower cargo capacity and one of the things that made the Orca so silly was the sheer amount of stuff you could cart around risk-free.

That said, DSCs could use something too to make them a viable choice for… something… anything.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-12-01 18:21:47 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Andski wrote:


what station?


I can't touch this one...........


okay ima give you a protip (tip from a pro) here so it goes like this you see

you undock with all brackets enabled and see if any warpable celestial is inline with the undock

if there is one, you bookmark the undock, instawarp to that celestial, warp back to your undock BM at 100, delete the old undock bookmark, create a new one and keep doing that, rinse and repeat until satisfied

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#79 - 2012-12-01 18:41:23 UTC
After all of these words in this thread we are still no closer to figuring out why this change has happenedStraight
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#80 - 2012-12-01 18:44:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Andski wrote:


what station?


I can't touch this one...........


okay ima give you a protip (tip from a pro) here so it goes like this you see

you undock with all brackets enabled and see if any warpable celestial is inline with the undock

if there is one, you bookmark the undock, instawarp to that celestial, warp back to your undock BM at 100, delete the old undock bookmark, create a new one and keep doing that, rinse and repeat until satisfied



This we know.

The point is to do it in Amamake without getting popped as soon as station exit is made, before cloaking.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882