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Blockade Runners?!

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2012-12-01 12:51:44 UTC
i dont think this will do much in Jita.
There is already a group treating them as split second skeet shots, when they get to actually dock.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2012-12-01 14:45:07 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Doddy wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Not sure why they needed to do this given the blocade runner if used right cant be locked...


Because most people can't use it right of course. Anyway the real question is will it be scannable by customs?


yes they can re.CCP in i think it was the patch notes thread.


In that case I wonder what this change is trying to fix.
Bennet Am
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-12-01 14:47:16 UTC
Not a well thought out idea.

I use a blockade runner to carry PI and other assets out of low sec to a trade hub.

Now my return trips are as risky as my drop offs, because people cannot see that I am empty. Eve is a game of numbers, and you just doubled my high risk jumps.

I'll adapt, but it just makes hauling assets out of low sec to a trade hub a pain in the ass.

Some of us operate in low sec and don't want to reship before we connect to the major trade routes.

If you are going to make this change then make the Primae a useful ship by making it more of a gate running PI hauler.

Add a high slot. Increase PI hold to 4000m3.

Add the following bonus -98.5% to -99.25% bonus per cloaking skill level to the CPU need of fitting a covert ops cloak.


Mag's
Azn Empire
#24 - 2012-12-01 14:49:40 UTC
It's the most ridiculous change, I've seen made for some time tbh. It already had scan immunity with it's cloak.

Pointless change is pointless.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#25 - 2012-12-01 14:53:10 UTC
Bennet Am wrote:

I'll adapt, but it just makes hauling assets out of low sec to a trade hub a pain in the ass.

Some of us operate in low sec and don't want to reship before we connect to the major trade routes.



Ironic that despite what CCP states as desires, they continue to make Low Sec even less appealing and more discouraging.

This is a terrible change, as I stated earlier.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Mag's
Azn Empire
#26 - 2012-12-01 14:56:30 UTC
Pohbis wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
What the two gentlemen and one other above have told you is correct. Finally you can enjoy cargo scan immunity on your invisible cloaked hauler.
To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock Blink
Why would you even try?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#27 - 2012-12-01 14:57:09 UTC
agree i think ccp want all of us live in high sec Ugh

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#28 - 2012-12-01 15:01:24 UTC
As usual, Jester hit the nail on the head with this one.

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2012/11/plastic-wrap-all-things.html

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Alara IonStorm
#29 - 2012-12-01 15:01:58 UTC
Think they should have extended it to both Transport types.

I hope they redue T1 Haulers with specific roles though difficult due to the lopsided ship distribution.

My thoughts on that in general are posted here.
Amber Coldheart
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-12-01 15:03:06 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:

Blockade Runners in Empire are often used for high value cargo anyway and their high skill requirements and low payoff (hauler [5] only gives you freighters and T2 haulers) probably means that the majority of them operating exclusively in Empire have been bought specifically for that purpose...

I have 2 Viators, and use them exclusively to pick up/move stuff. Not expensive stuff per se, its just a very handy ship due to its speed and agility if you need to pick up something bigger than what'll fit in a frigate hold.

Or rather, it used to be, think i'll be somewhat careful around market hubs now :)
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#31 - 2012-12-01 15:05:27 UTC
Trdina Rasputin wrote:
Can CONCORD still scan blockade runner? I mean custom office.

The NPCs can still scan them.

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Dave Stark
#32 - 2012-12-01 15:31:11 UTC
unless people are auto piloting, i really don't see why they think flying a BR is going to be more risky after the patch...
Bennet Am
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-12-01 15:41:54 UTC
Because now they can scan me and see that I'm empty or hauling 80 million in crap. After the expansion, I might be smuggling 100 PLEX.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#34 - 2012-12-01 15:43:32 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Pohbis wrote:
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
What the two gentlemen and one other above have told you is correct. Finally you can enjoy cargo scan immunity on your invisible cloaked hauler.
To be fair, it's pretty hard to cloak at the jita 4-4 undock Blink
Why would you even try?
Well I wouldn't. Just pointing out that a cov-ops cloak does not make your cargo immune to scanning all the time.

Not advocating the change, on a soft T2 ship that doesn't take a lot of ISK to gank, it's meh, and I would never use an expensive ship for my favorite gank-activity; flying empty double-wraps around hi-sec on auto-pilot :)
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#35 - 2012-12-01 15:45:04 UTC
Who bothers hauling in high-sec anyway? That's what courier contracts are for.

Oh god.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#36 - 2012-12-01 15:47:00 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Who bothers hauling in high-sec anyway? That's what courier contracts are for.


Ipso facto then the courier is hauling through high sec, are they not ??

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#37 - 2012-12-01 15:48:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
They use freighters, not blockade runners. In other words, use a cloaky hauler with a scout to get into high sec, then use Red Frog to carry your junk into Jita.

Oh god.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#38 - 2012-12-01 15:49:19 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
They use freighters, not blockade runners.



Scannable and a huge chance of being popped nowadays. Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#39 - 2012-12-01 15:54:40 UTC
Hooray for collateral. I'm surprised the suicide gankers aren't cashing in on that too.

Oh god.
Spurty
#40 - 2012-12-01 15:57:41 UTC
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