EVE General Discussion

You know I still think it's crazy that a handful of people meander into a thread, mostly about something they've never experienced, just to share an irrelevant opinion or justify something that a decent human being wouldn't be okay with. Not just this thread, any thread that doesn't agree with the straight white male privilege.

Meaning that everything's mostly okay for you, so you don't feel any empathy for those who have less or aren't as fortunate. And you'll fight tooth and nail to keep things from shifting out of your favor.

Kinda the way the goons abhor mining or bittervets detest most WiS aspects of EVE.

In most cases women prefer fantasy games where magic, dragons and sword... not SF games, personaly i meet three woman in EvE form 2006 that a lot... but its ok, i adapt to fact that more than 90% players are male, however would be cool to see more woman in game, but like i mention before, in general SF games are not woman things.

At last we got female avatatars, enjoy

Ps. World Of darknes are potential good game for big community of goth girls ;) so wait for premiere

Why worry about what people do and why?

BTW I see this "you are this and therefore you only do/don't do that" mentality mainly in the U.S. There's a lot of pigeonholing and gender-policing going on in the world, and the problem is not coming from the gaming industry or even from most gamers though admittedly there are some from the neckbearded persuasion who get a little creepy when a girl is around.

The women don't know what they are missing, but they are told that they are more attractive for having missed it, yet only accomplish the feat of seeming less interesting to guy who they would find more interesting.

And... having just confused myself, I now ride off on a 2-wheeled tricycle.

Because then people wouldn't have something to argue about or kill each other over.

Are you people seriously arguing RL gender equality in an internet game...?

What do you think the problem with this is? There can never be gender equality on the internet or any place that is relatively consequence-free to our RL-selves simply due to the fact that we are all hiding behind a bunch of avatars and aliases.

Of course all the guys would jump on a girl in EvE and ask her all kinds of inappropriate questions, because the said female would have little recourse (ignore perhaps, or if the action is persistent and malicious petition/report to GMs). Why? Because we can be anyone and anything online and this anonymity in itself changes the entire concept of our psychology and how we act towards one another.

You will find that the traditional ID - EGO - SUPEREGO hierarchy becomes irrelevant, that is to say that we tend to revert back to being guided by our more primal drives. Higher order concepts tend to be left behind and I am positive that most of us have done this one time or another and some more so than others: how often did you find yourself blowing someone up in EvE just because you wanted them to die... mercy, consideration for that person's feelings... need not apply. Same is relevant towards the relationship between players of same of different sexes. Scams, theft, trolling - most of these things would never occur to us in RL, yet we engage regularly in such practices in EvE.

Gender equality by same rights IS stuck in 1952; hell, take it back to caveman days if you want. Males will always revert to their baser instincts around female gamers and likewise, women gamers can and regularly do use their sex to obtain favours or gain advantages. Unless we are skyping this game, using RL names and RL consequences are applied to our actions, good luck in trying to affect any type of change in EvE or any online game.

Besides, the OP article deals with some serious RL issues of gender inequality in salaries of female employees in the gaming industry as well as misrepresentation of female gamers. I fail to see the relevance to EvE... did you want the HUD to be customisable to pink or something?

Anywho, threads like this tend to be so completely irrelevant and useless to argue that I am not sure why so many people even try… myself exempted, of course, as I bring wisdom to the masses.

don't interrupt, katie is a fully quallified armchair psychologist

and did you know women like pink because berries

I for one welcome our fairer sex overlords.

I stand by what I said. His "maybe not as well" statement is definitely not thinking.

Was stating that the majority of men are misinformed and telling people to grow up after giving you the answer you needed to hear your idea of keeping this conversation civil?

You clearly see a problem where there doesn't need to be one. You made that clear by completely dismissing the most obvious points that could be made in this thread. On the grand scale, men and women like different things. If we were all the same, we wouldn't reproduce and life would be boring.



Regardless of gender, if you want to be respected then learn to play the "game". Heed the above advice.

Because sometimes these situations become dangerous. Guys like me are still murdered to this day just walking down the street even in the Castro in San Fran.