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The Future of W-space?
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Irya Boone
The Scope
#41 - 2012-12-05 11:18:23 UTC
It would be cool to be able to claim a WH at the cost of something like fuel or minerals ( maybe to encourage people to mine in WH .. because there is not a lot of people doing it )

And yes need the revamp of POS need Station and ALL the abilities of stations ..( fitting services for ships ...tech3 , reprocess plant etc etc

because I don't understand Why CCP forces Us To leave WH sometimes ( like must go to K-space to have fuel or Ice ) don't really get It at all.

And the other thing they sould improve is the Waste in refinery because i don't understand Why i'm penalized when people In high sec station With no risk at all can get close to 0 % waste in refine.


With all that fixed the Future Of Wh will be great my POV

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-12-05 18:24:17 UTC
lordjanuss wrote:
CCP was playing with the thought about adding more WH at fanfest 2012, I think that would be interesting, ( 7-9) with Cap sleepers . and we have not seen sleepers attacking gas ops and bashing POS , I think that would be fun.Big smileBig smileBig smile

Class 7-9 wormholes go to (or are) k-space if i'm not mistaken.

Capital sleepers would be mix things up a bit...taking on 20+ sleepless guardians at once does get a bit old after a while.
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-12-05 18:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: WInter Borne
Altrue wrote:
In my corporation we all have the feeling that CCP is considering wormholers as the "bad little duck" of EvE population.


  • No Dust for temperates in wormholes.
  • No "strategic" in the word "strategic cruisers" in wormholes. (due to inability to switch subsystems... Come on, it's been more than THREE YEARS now, if there were truly a will to change this from CCP, they would have already done it)
  • No moon mining. (Despite the fact that logistically it's harder for wormholers to maintain a lot of POSes active in the same system. So, it would be quite logical to see moon mining in wormholes, and better moons than in regular null sec.)
  • No sovereignty in wormholes. (Despite the fact that the feeling of "controlling" a system is much more pronounced in a wormhole than in any other null sec system)
  • No logistical help for mining in wormholes. No instant respawn of belts in wormholes as opposed to null sec gravi.
    • 50% of new modules released are battleship sized. Battleships are commonly known to be a pain in... (some part of your body) due to mass restrictions for low and mid-classes wormholes.


So yeah, I will proclaim loudly that, in my opinion, CCP is considering wormholes as a mistake of the past, and is not planning anything that would only affect wormhole life. Except nerfs eventually, of course.
Despite the fact that it is one of the rare remaining places were you can find some true PvP, the same PvP that CCP is so proud to stream during tournaments. The only PvP were skill matters more than ressources, and were there is no possible surprise hotdrop, boring weak NPCs or pvp-killing local.

I would truly appreciate to read someone showing me an opposite vision and breaking my arguments... But I doubt to see anything like that, sadly.

Absolutely! Wormholes were a massive mistake on CCP's part, that's why they introduced incursions to make things fair for everyone else. Bear
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#44 - 2012-12-09 11:16:47 UTC
I thought -A- was taking all the wormholes? Have they started yet? Are they done? Why aren't we doing something about it!!!

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Hoxothul
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-12-09 13:51:02 UTC
WInter Borne wrote:
lordjanuss wrote:
CCP was playing with the thought about adding more WH at fanfest 2012, I think that would be interesting, ( 7-9) with Cap sleepers . and we have not seen sleepers attacking gas ops and bashing POS , I think that would be fun.Big smileBig smileBig smile

Class 7-9 wormholes go to (or are) k-space if i'm not mistaken.

Capital sleepers would be mix things up a bit...taking on 20+ sleepless guardians at once does get a bit old after a while.



During the wormhole round table at Fan Fest, CCP brought up the idea of C7-C9 wormhole systems with potential capital sleepers. There were some talk about turning it into a "King of the Hill" type of systems, where you had to fight for control over the relatively few systems, so that you could profit from them.
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#46 - 2012-12-10 05:03:33 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
It would be cool to be able to claim a WH at the cost of something like fuel or minerals ( maybe to encourage people to mine in WH .. because there is not a lot of people doing it )

And yes need the revamp of POS need Station and ALL the abilities of stations ..( fitting services for ships ...tech3 , reprocess plant etc etc

because I don't understand Why CCP forces Us To leave WH sometimes ( like must go to K-space to have fuel or Ice ) don't really get It at all.

And the other thing they sould improve is the Waste in refinery because i don't understand Why i'm penalized when people In high sec station With no risk at all can get close to 0 % waste in refine.


With all that fixed the Future Of Wh will be great my POV


Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-12-10 05:07:42 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!



People always like to misquote that.
Frying Doom
#48 - 2012-12-10 08:04:22 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!



People always like to misquote that.

Please do not pick on the intellectually disabled.

Smile

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#49 - 2012-12-10 08:12:34 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!



People always like to misquote that.

Please do not pick on the intellectually disabled.

Smile


Cuz all u wh'lers are super leet and rl ballers right?

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Frying Doom
#50 - 2012-12-10 08:21:38 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!



People always like to misquote that.

Please do not pick on the intellectually disabled.

Smile


Cuz all u wh'lers are super leet and rl ballers right?

Might I suggest a literacy course?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-12-10 12:02:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Hoxothul wrote:

During the wormhole round table at Fan Fest, CCP brought up the idea of C7-C9 wormhole systems with potential capital sleepers. There were some talk about turning it into a "King of the Hill" type of systems, where you had to fight for control over the relatively few systems, so that you could profit from them.


Capital sleepers sound pretty.

I listened to a podcast not too long ago where one of the CSM members made and appearance (i think it was Seleene), he said that CCP's original design for wormholes was to have the system effects change from time to time. That could be a cool feature for wormholes.

Other than "moar isk", what other features do you think C7-C9 wormholes should have?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#52 - 2012-12-10 13:04:42 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!



People always like to misquote that.

Please do not pick on the intellectually disabled.

Smile


Cuz all u wh'lers are super leet and rl ballers right?



Well we normally dont camp highsec entrances and talk about cloaky titans build in C2s.
Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers
#53 - 2012-12-10 13:15:19 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
It would be cool to be able to claim a WH at the cost of something like fuel or minerals ( maybe to encourage people to mine in WH .. because there is not a lot of people doing it )


You can already claim a system, just setup POS's and custom offices, maybe even drop a TCU or do it the poor man's style and anchor a Giant secure container named "We nubs own this system".
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#54 - 2012-12-10 13:40:20 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
It would be cool to be able to claim a WH at the cost of something like fuel or minerals ( maybe to encourage people to mine in WH .. because there is not a lot of people doing it )

WH:s are claimed by killing everyone who disagrees at the cost of ammo and explosions.

The same should apply to claiming space and resources in K-space too.
Verushka Atreides
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2012-12-10 16:58:53 UTC
Wasn't there mention of the new pos's being able to be anchored anywhere? not just at a moon? is it possible they will allow multiple pos's on the same grid?
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#56 - 2012-12-11 09:32:29 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
VegasMirage wrote:
Wh's were not meant to be lived in longterm. I think CCP should go back to their original design intent and evict you all, back to hi sec!!!



People always like to misquote that.

Please do not pick on the intellectually disabled.

Smile


Cuz all u wh'lers are super leet and rl ballers right?

Might I suggest a literacy course?


No, but maybe I'm typing on a mobile phone while driving 95 miles per hour with a Vegas stripper in my lap. What then you crusty dried out old thong? What then!!!!

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Efraya
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#57 - 2012-12-11 09:49:25 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:

No, but maybe I'm typing on a mobile phone while driving 95 miles per hour with a Vegas stripper in my lap. What then you crusty dried out old thong? What then!!!!


I think I would recommend a psychiatrist, literacy is the least of his troubles as he is clearly delusional.

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