EVE General Discussion

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I like low sec, but I haven't spent much time in high sec or null sec so I don't have a good basis to compare risk / reward. I like that it's possible to operate in low sec as an individual, while also offering possibilities to team up: I like that it's more dangerous than high sec without having all the nasty stuff you get in null sec (interdiction bubbles, etc.); I like that there are better natural resources and harder anomalies than in high sec; I like that some of the people you meet will be friendly and some will be hostile. I dislike that I sometimes find myself, with a more defensively-minded fit, doing things that I could be doing in high sec, with an all-out performance fit. I like that the local infrastructure is less developed, but it does make things more difficult.

One desire I have that may or may not be realistic, would be the ability to interact with pirate factions. I think the Guristas are a really interesting group, for example, but moving to Venal to meet them and start missioning with them doesn't seem like a realistic ambition for me. If there was some way to "wet your feet" with these groups in low sec, that might be cool.

So why do you leave trading out of the list? It's the only high-sec profession that has absolutely 0 risk.

Trading could easily be nerfed.

For example, increase brokers fees to 5%. Sure this will affect everyones wallet, but it would affect the traders wallet the most, since he pays brokers fees twice via buying then reselling. Of course if this were done, private contracts would probably also have to be looked at, which also would affect all of eve.

Another example, various things could be done ot the trade skills, which could nerf trading.

I mean I'm just curious as to why you think all the low income activities in hi-sec should be nerfed, yet you overlook the most profitable way to make money in all of eve, which coincidentally, the pilot who chooses to pursue this career can also choose to do it entirely risk-free.

Station trading is a beast of the system, it wold be less effective with out jita.

Real buy move sell trading has its own risks as you have to undock.

Yes but your goods where at risk to LULZGANKS during movement.

AT no risk to me, since they were covered by the 1 billion collateral.

With the addition of high sec divided by low sec systems jita would no long be THE trade hub.
You would end up with 4 hubs divided by lowsec with trade between them by the less risk adverse players.

And then suddenly targets in low sec.

Lowsec is fine as far as I am concerned. The problem is people thinking in "ISK/hr" and "Risk VS Reward". Lowsec might not yield the rewards of null, nor does it need to. Lowsec offers the freedom of lowsec, not an arbitrary amount of ISK. If anyone wants to buff lowsec then fine, but I for one don't need a buff, nor do I think more people will move into lowsec as a result of it. I dont mind the fact most people still think lowsec can't be profitable and enjoyable, this myth has kept undesirable ratters outside of my system for a very long time!

To me (personal perception!), low-sec most times feels like jumping into a huge grinder. I rarely make it out in my ship or sometimes loose my pod. Besides having the "fun" of transforming a ship into shiny explosions I have no reason to go there. I know I'm doing something wrong but what other reasons exist to go to low besides squishing each other? Missions seem like more rewarding in 0.0. Exploration is likewise to me. And if I want real threats and thrills, there is allways a Wormhole nearby.

I like the idea of low-sov. But not like ripping it off the hands of the empires. More like "renting" or "governing" systems/constelations of low-sec space on behalve of the sov-holding empire.

That might include duties like having to keep the crime statistics under a certain level (engangements that include a sec-drop for at least one of the involved parties or discouraging pod squishes) or the duty to a minimum number of trades between unique capsuleers thus producing market acitivity in the governed region. If you fail to keep these figures in the green area you loose your governing contract and have to wait some time to apply for a new one.

Having the option to get more enganged into eve besides pvp would be appealing to me. (Thats just me!)

Due to the low activity (which includes low market activity) I can think of incursion like events like famines, deseases, planet wide riots, etc. you would have to cope with if you are the one governing a portion of "less developed" space. Reward for this could be standing gains or dropable beacons to squads of local navy as reinforcements when policing your area (probalby not that good, as it could debalance pvp-situations as they are now) or beeing allowed to claim taxes from those, who have POSs in that space (like selling your own starbase charters).

Basicaly that you can replace the missing parts of high-sec but you have put effort in it. And you might learn how to team up (even over timezones), organise your group and work effectively to achieve something that has more meaning, than bringing home the dam(n)sel again or killing the duo of death the n-th time.

But again, this is just me.