EVE General Discussion

some people say: yes
other (and i trust them) say: nope, increased profits won't make low-sec more populated.

And about "dare to be bold". Eve gives you a choices. It's up to you to choose something. Your choice - low sec. That's ok. My choice for nearest time - high sec (got bored by 0.0 sec). Noone forces us to choose one option or another. Then why rewarding one of them?

Low sec would be much more popular if it had concord.

0.0 sec shows: rich resources not always provoke conflict. Take a look to moons income.
However i don't want to argue here because this question has like 100+ threads in this forum. Let's not start another one.


Boosting one area -> more ISK into game -> prices for everything growing == nerf for all other areas

And low-sec is already more rewarding than high-sec.


It's more likely

It would also be more popular if it didnt have sentry guns.

I consider lowsec as null without any profitable stuff but where I can travel more safely without having to worry about fast tacklers.

Lowsec can be fun if youre in FW, but other than that most pvp is of the stupid sort (like station games etc that happen because of the sentry guns. )

And there is always the chance for a hotdrop á la null if you think you can actually do something important in there. Restrictions just kill lowsec. And it still doesnt have good sites etc. At least in null you can freely engage in a duel or smallgang fight at gates without worrying about sentries.

The buff I want for low sec.

Pirate PvE.

Right now non industrially the way to earn cash is to shoot Pirate Faction Rats with a Concord Bounty. Instead I would like to see targets that are not other Pirates. Targets for Pirates in which you lose Sec Status for Attacking.

The idea.

* Non Combat NPC Spawns.
* The locations: Gates, Planets, Stations, Belts, Anomalies, Scan Sites.
* The challenge: NPC Mercenary / Security Defenders spawning on a chance based system which scales up in size and occurrence by target value.
* Small flat Sec Status Loss for participating at all, not by target.
* Rewards: Dropped goods that can be sold on the market, possibly some sold to NPC's. Some of it might be illegal.

Defense Attributes.

* Target Non Combat Ship Warps Away and de-spawns if not Pointed.
* Attack Ships Warp in after Aggro on Target Non Combat Ship.
* Attack Ships: MWD, Warp Scramble, Web, Nuet, EWAR, Multiple Dmg Types, Logi and Switch Targets.
* Attack Ships Warp Away and despawn in low Hull if not Scrambled. New ships take their place after a short time.
* Great AI and PvP Tactics
* Chance Based on how many show up.
* Sentry Guns do not interfere with this on a gate or station but you can be attacked as Pirate for 15min without Gun interference even if you are + Sec Status.

The Targets by Value.

* Shuttles / Luxury Yachts / Exploration Frigates / Zephyrs / ORE Frigates 5000 - 10k HP / 10-100m3 Cargo
- Solo or a couple cheapy ships.
- Newbie Rewards.
- Low Chance of Defender Ship.

* Haulers / Primae's / Noctis / Barges 30-50k HP / 500-2000m3 Cargo:
- Solo in a Bigger Ships or with a few friends depending on spawn size.
- Good Rewards for a one to a few people.
- High Chance of Defender Fleet.

* Transport Ships / Exhumers 50-75k HP 1000-4000m3 Cargo
- Gang Sized Targets.
- Good Rewards for a Gang.
- Defense Fleet will show in various sizes.

* Freighters / Orca 200k HP 15000-50000m3 Cargo
- 10-25 Man Fleet Required.
- Great Rewards for a Fleet.
- It's a Trap!... Really Big Defense Fleet.

Basically they are random appearances of Pirate worthy targets that when attacked spawn a fleet of Incursion / Sleeper Style Mercenary Ships to defend them and if you win you can yank the cargo. The less people you bring the more to go around but the more risk of being Scrammed and offed, the more the less rewards to split. Sometimes it is a roll of the dice whether to attack and you have to decide if target of said value is worth the risk or if you want to keep walking.

Edit: Made a F&I Thread cause I really do like this idea and typed it all out.

Wouldn't losec sov just lead to locking others out of those areas once the initial land rush was over?

What would be better in my mind would be more gate links between high and low - more gates would mean less likelihood of running into the entry system gate camps that put a lot of players off attempting access to losec after their first attempts.

It's got nothing to do with rewards, it's purely about players being risk averse. The only way to make risk averse players want to go into low sec is to give them ridiculously high rewards which make the risk irrelevant.

No it isn't.
Players are "risk adverse" in EVE because there's no real incentive to take the risks.

It's not even that - there's plenty of risk averse people, it's just that if they're going to leave the cradle of highsec, they're way better off skipping lowsec entirely and either going to NPC null or trying to join a sov alliance. They'll have better rewards if they're PvE types, and if they're PvP players, they get to do their thing without being locked out of a large portion of the game because of it.

Fact of the matter is though, young males are not risk averse, and they're the major target audience for EVE whether you like it or not—so it seems much more likely that the system simply does not encourage risk taking.