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supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#1 - 2012-11-29 00:26:52 UTC
The orca +

+an industrial jump bridge which allows t1 & t2 industrial/barges to jump
+a jump drive for it to follow the fleet
+the ability to apply cloaking status to ships (or particular ship types) within a set radius which allows fleet members to continue on using modules without any negative side effects while cloaked
+w/e goodies/downfalls a tech 2 orca should have
Infinite Force
#2 - 2012-11-29 00:31:58 UTC
supernova ranger wrote:
The orca +

+an industrial jump bridge which allows t1 & t2 industrial/barges to jump
+a jump drive for it to follow the fleet
+the ability to apply cloaking status to ships (or particular ship types) within a set radius which allows fleet members to continue on using modules without any negative side effects while cloaked
+w/e goodies/downfalls a tech 2 orca should have


AoE cloak .. nice. Kind of like the original StarCraft Arbitrator :)

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Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
The Initiative.
#3 - 2012-11-29 00:32:43 UTC
Get a rorqual and a jump bridge network?

As for the remote cloak idea... no... just no.
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#4 - 2012-11-29 01:02:30 UTC
Cameron Cahill wrote:
Get a rorqual and a jump bridge network?

As for the remote cloak idea... no... just no.


That requires sov. space and multiple anchored and defended poses or multiple rorquals/ titans.......... be realistic.........
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-11-29 01:05:30 UTC
Lots of people manage it every day, if you don't want to invest the effort to make friends with sov/titans, or get them for yourself, then use gates like everyone else. Or you know store your **** in the rorq jump it and fly in frigs/pods to the destination.
Jackal Datapaw
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-11-29 01:22:37 UTC
We already TECHNICALLY have a tech two orca.

It called the Rorqual.

B remote cloaking? I could only imagine how ground breaking of an idea that would be. No to mention ground breaking oped.

C: The Seeing a Rorqual, is already there, and it TECHNICALLY the big brother of the orca, why do we need another cap indy that needs to be rebalance and reworked into the game when all the balances and pitfalls of a Rorqual is already there?

commonly suggest cloaking and local ideas

Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#7 - 2012-11-29 02:47:42 UTC
supernova ranger wrote:
The orca +

+an industrial jump bridge which allows t1 & t2 industrial/barges to jump
+a jump drive for it to follow the fleet
+the ability to apply cloaking status to ships (or particular ship types) within a set radius which allows fleet members to continue on using modules without any negative side effects while cloaked
+w/e goodies/downfalls a tech 2 orca should have

I am still waiting for an explanation on how the Orca and Rorqual will handle their boosting after the POS changes take place, specifically the shield bubble no longer protecting them.

Neither is agile, and the Rorqual needs to be in vulnerable siege mode to get the bonus to its boosts on top of the rest.

Maybe they will get some form of fleet centric AOE cloak like this. All I know is they will be a bit too easy to pop if pushed into the open as they are now.

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Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#8 - 2012-11-29 02:51:51 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
The orca +

+an industrial jump bridge which allows t1 & t2 industrial/barges to jump
+a jump drive for it to follow the fleet
+the ability to apply cloaking status to ships (or particular ship types) within a set radius which allows fleet members to continue on using modules without any negative side effects while cloaked
+w/e goodies/downfalls a tech 2 orca should have

I am still waiting for an explanation on how the Orca and Rorqual will handle their boosting after the POS changes take place, specifically the shield bubble no longer protecting them.

Neither is agile, and the Rorqual needs to be in vulnerable siege mode to get the bonus to its boosts on top of the rest.

Maybe they will get some form of fleet centric AOE cloak like this. All I know is they will be a bit too easy to pop if pushed into the open as they are now.


put allot of guns on the pos. have an insta lock death anti cyno killer.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-29 03:08:30 UTC
Because being able to activate models on cloaked ships clearly won't be abusedRoll
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#10 - 2012-11-29 03:15:12 UTC
It would be interesting to have T2 Orca with similar effects to the BlackOps Ships, However I agree with most of the comments here that the Rorq already fills most of these roles.
The AOE Cloak is a little too powerful though.

Maybe the solution is to have a module for the Rorq to give the ability to create the Industrial Jump Portal/Bridge with similar requirements/restrictions as the BlackOps Covert Jump Portal Generator. Could be interesting to have a group of BlackOps/Recons/Bombers go ahead and "Secure" a system for a Ninja mining op.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#11 - 2012-11-29 16:07:45 UTC
Ok, here's a thought.

For the Rorqual, add a cloak effect to it's siege mode. It doesn't even need to be a genuine cloak, just simply some form of camouflage to make it look like an asteroid or similar expected object.
This would also result in it being at the belt in question, allowing it to make use of those marvelous tractor beams.

For the Orca, add the cloaked siege mode with a 1 minute variation, since it can't compress ore, etc.

Hostiles that know for certain one of these are present can start looking for them. As with anything concealed, knowing it is there to be found is the biggest obstacle to overcome, the rest is patience and effort.

I would not make these cloak effects AoE, just for the ships themselves.

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