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Technetium - Nothings Changed?
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MilitantMan
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-28 17:30:14 UTC
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2012-11-28 17:32:20 UTC
Nerf goons thread # blahblahblahblahnerfgoonsblahblahblahwaaaaaaaaaaa

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
MIrple
Black Sheep Down
Tactical Narcotics Team
#3 - 2012-11-28 17:33:29 UTC
Yes Goon busted their ass to conquer all the regions holding tech and maintain a logistical nightmare to reap these rewards but you should have it changed because your not them. GTFO and play something eles
MilitantMan
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-11-28 17:34:44 UTC
MIrple wrote:
Yes Goon busted their ass to conquer all the regions holding tech and maintain a logistical nightmare to reap these rewards but you should have it changed because your not them. GTFO and play something eles


reported, your sad little angry comments are not needed...

oh and lets remember goons was given deklein - just saying
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-11-28 17:34:46 UTC
MilitantMan wrote:
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then



Nothings changed?

When the alchemy changes went through Tech was selling just shy of 200k/unit, each moon making nearly 16 billion a month before fuel costs were considered.

The current ppu of tech is UNDER 80k/unit.


Your definition of "nothing" seems a bit off.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
John DaiSho
Quam Singulari Industry
Roid Suckers
#6 - 2012-11-28 17:35:05 UTC
Actually, it isnt, Tech went down quite a bit but its still very profitable for all Tech holders. The new alchemy reactions did pull down the price for Tech but its hard to produce significant numbers that way.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2012-11-28 17:35:14 UTC
We have been forced to give swimming lessons to our accountants so that they dont drown in the money bin.
Kobal81
Domheimed
#8 - 2012-11-28 17:35:40 UTC
Working as Intended

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit"
MilitantMan
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-11-28 17:35:56 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Nerf goons thread # blahblahblahblahnerfgoonsblahblahblahwaaaaaaaaaaa


not about goons really, i just threw the comment in... please dont get angry. its just a game.
MilitantMan
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-11-28 17:36:38 UTC  |  Edited by: MilitantMan
Grath Telkin wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then



Nothings changed?

When the alchemy changes went through Tech was selling just shy of 200k/unit, each moon making nearly 16 billion a month before fuel costs were considered.

The current ppu of tech is UNDER 80k/unit.


Your definition of "nothing" seems a bit off.


no it was not what a load of rubbish is was not much different to now

http://www.eve-markets.net/detail.php?typeid=16649#history
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#11 - 2012-11-28 17:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeremy Soikutsu
MilitantMan wrote:

no it was not what a load of rubbish is was not much different to now

http://www.eve-markets.net/detail.php?typeid=16649#history

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/techh.jpg/ Taken like 2 minutes ago.

It should be noted that alchemy didn't fix Tech it just broke OTEC.

As to Goons et al. earning their moons, sure they did. That still doesn't make them not busted as ****.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-11-28 17:43:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
MilitantMan wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then



Nothings changed?

When the alchemy changes went through Tech was selling just shy of 200k/unit, each moon making nearly 16 billion a month before fuel costs were considered.

The current ppu of tech is UNDER 80k/unit.


Your definition of "nothing" seems a bit off.


no it was not what a load of rubbish is was not much different to now

http://www.eve-markets.net/detail.php?typeid=16649#history


My alliance holds over 50 tech moons, adding that functional knowledge with that fancy market tab called Price History, then setting it to "6 Months" allows you to see back to June 2nd where the price was about 190k/unit. If you take a look at that tab it'll tell you how wrong you are and I wont have to waste anymore words doing it.


Short of that I can post a screen shot of the price history tab on the market window and show you and everybody else how wrong you are.

EDIT: Too late somebody else already posted the market window, showing you how wrong you are.
Jeremy Soikutsu wrote:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/techh.jpg/ Taken like 2 minutes ago.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-11-28 17:46:08 UTC
YOU LEAVE TECH ALONE

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#14 - 2012-11-28 17:51:47 UTC
MilitantMan wrote:
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then


Hate to tell you, but the Tec problem existed ( concentration of moons in one region) long before Goons ever got deklien, in fact mittens even addressed the problem so don't blame goons blame CCP for the footdragging on this issue.

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Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#15 - 2012-11-28 17:53:51 UTC
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GOOONS

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
MilitantMan
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-11-28 17:54:22 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then


Hate to tell you, but the Tec problem existed ( concentration of moons in one region) long before Goons ever got deklien, in fact mittens even addressed the problem so don't blame goons blame CCP for the footdragging on this issue.



well it didnt really did it. There where a few dyspro and prom moons IN ALL Regions. Now there is sweet FA in the south and its all in the north. Plus there was nowhere near the same amount of dyspro moons etc compared to tech now
MilitantMan
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-11-28 17:57:54 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:
So its been a while since the CCP changes around producing tech. But nothings changed, Tech is still the same price. Straight

I guess we better get used to goonswarm online then



Nothings changed?

When the alchemy changes went through Tech was selling just shy of 200k/unit, each moon making nearly 16 billion a month before fuel costs were considered.

The current ppu of tech is UNDER 80k/unit.


Your definition of "nothing" seems a bit off.


no it was not what a load of rubbish is was not much different to now

http://www.eve-markets.net/detail.php?typeid=16649#history


My alliance holds over 50 tech moons, adding that functional knowledge with that fancy market tab called Price History, then setting it to "6 Months" allows you to see back to June 2nd where the price was about 190k/unit. If you take a look at that tab it'll tell you how wrong you are and I wont have to waste anymore words doing it.


Short of that I can post a screen shot of the price history tab on the market window and show you and everybody else how wrong you are.

EDIT: Too late somebody else already posted the market window, showing you how wrong you are.
Jeremy Soikutsu wrote:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/techh.jpg/ Taken like 2 minutes ago.


happy to stand corrected about the price, however the changes CCP made, was not the cause for that drop matey.
Infact I doubt it has had any impact, it was supposed to have a much bigger impact, bringing price of tech down a lot its still pretty damn high
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-11-28 18:00:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Grath Telkin
MilitantMan wrote:

well it didnt really did it. There where a few dyspro and prom moons IN ALL Regions. Now there is sweet FA in the south and its all in the north. Plus there was nowhere near the same amount of dyspro moons etc compared to tech now


There are in fact tech moons in the south (3+ that I know of), but you are right, there are a TON more dyspro and prom moons in the game then there are tech, and most players did in fact point this out, at the time of the change the NC held nearly all those moons, we pointed them out as conflict drivers when spread around the game but the Devs at the time just brushed off what we were telling them, ignored us, and put the changes in anyway.

The end result was that fight starters around the game were made useless and all the wealth of the game was concentrated in one section of the map.

Those of us who were smart decided to get us a piece of that pie since they weren't going to do anything about how broken they were making it.

Don't hold a grudge against the players who sought out and made homes and strongholds around where the money was, don't get mad and say that the alchemy changes haven't changed tech, get mad at the developers who ignored what the players told them would happen 2 years ago for stifling again and again fights around the game by hamfisting changes and refusing to review them for years after their poor implementation wreaks havoc on the game, I'm looking at you Dominion Sov and Tech changes.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
MilitantMan
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-11-28 18:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: MilitantMan
Grath Telkin wrote:
MilitantMan wrote:

well it didnt really did it. There where a few dyspro and prom moons IN ALL Regions. Now there is sweet FA in the south and its all in the north. Plus there was nowhere near the same amount of dyspro moons etc compared to tech now


There are in fact tech moons in the south (3+ that I know of), but you are right, there are a TON more dyspro and prom moons in the game then there are tech, and most players did in fact point this out, at the time of the change the NC held nearly all those moons, we pointed them out as conflict drivers when spread around the game but the Devs at the time just brushed off what we were telling them, ignored us, and put the changes in anyway.

The end result was that fight starters around the game were made useless and all the wealth of the game was concentrated in one section of the map.

Those of us who were smart decided to get us a piece of that pie since they weren't going to do anything about how broken they were making it.

Don't hold a grudge against the players who sought out and made homes and strongholds around where the money was, don't get mad and say that the alchemy changes haven't changed tech, get mad at the developers who ignored what the players told them would happen 2 years ago for stifling again and again fights around the game by hamfisting changes and refusing to review them for years after their poor implementation wreaks havoc on the game, I'm looking at you Dominion Sov and Tech changes.


Who said I was mad? Im just stating facts, I am perfectly calm, and actually i agree with you.

Also its just wrong, think about any new players coming into the game, will they ever ever hold a moon? of course not. Say in your instance do you think any new alliances or even alliances that are 2 years old can ever stand up or compete with PL or CFC or HBC. Of course they cant and never will be able to.

Sadly eve is becoming controlled by a few coalitions, is this really the way eve should be going? Chinese server perhaps?
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-11-28 18:11:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
Xpaulusx wrote:
Hate to tell you, but the Tec problem existed ( concentration of moons in one region) long before Goons ever got deklien, in fact mittens even addressed the problem so don't blame goons blame CCP for the footdragging on this issue.


What's even funnier was Goonswarm holding Delve (i.e. the region with a rather sizable concentration of Dyspro/Prom) when the changes came :v

But no, totally biased decision purely to benefit Devswarm. Glad this guy's on the case! Imagine the damage he'll do once he realizes how to make market history go back farther than 5 days!

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
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