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Yea Dust will have to earn for it self, but AUR needed for manufacturing items ingame is BAD. It should be used to buy stuff from the "AUR shop".

"EVE/DUST link"

Umm, what was it again? How does this work.... I don't even....

Wut?

Of what use to us immortals are these ground pounders pray tell?

Will they provide us greater riches? If not, what useful purpose will they serve?

This was topic near and dear to me for a long time, but then CCP announced that there was effectively no link to Dust at launch. There is some amazing potential here, and the most likely system is PI itself. If all goods that DUST players need are produced from PI/Industry in EVE, and they impact our PI pricing, it provides incentive to actually use DUST mercs. Right now with the current vague announcements about the system, there is almost no reason for an EVE player to care about DUST at all.

I am not sure how either economies/games are linked sofar so I can't realy offer a opinion on how it is.

I would prefer if real conquests were brought at launch, but factional warfare is good too, a sort of testin ground, better something than more beta.

A idea I have is that both econemys and resources are linked and exclusive. For planets owned by dust people they get resources that are exclusive for building ground stuff, and eve has minerals that are exclusively used for space ships. Some resources for tech 2 being traded to one and another (PI for eve, and morphite and moon materials for dust).

I love Dust but the serious lack of love from CCP when it comes to Dust and EVE integrating is giving me serious cause for concern.

Like Aryth said, there's a lot of room here for amazing things in the future and we all know how CCP typically implement something into EVE half arsed and fix it 3 years later but they have gone the opposite way with Dust and are doing so little with it and being so cautious with it that they risk loosing their player base before the game even goes live.

I can't go into specifics because of the NDA but they need to start ramping things up and spend much less time listening to forum thread after forum thread about balance issues people claim are wrong simply because they not use to the EVE skill system and don't train core skills and then go on ***** about things being OP or nerfed too much.

It will be about the summer EVE expansion i'd guess, it was originally slated to be part of tomorrows update till they got a bunch of feedback they didn't like and decided to postpone it.

My biggest concern for EVE/Dust is with the money CCP have **** into Dust, if it tanks will EVE tank?... Because we're not talking about a small sum of money here.

The fact that there are so few comments about the Eve/Dust link, in a thread for a CSM Summit, should in itself be a cause for concern for CCP.

I've been playing the beta extensively, only logging on to Eve to update training queues and keep from kicked from the Uni for inactivity. I admit it. I kinda rage quit after the Unifubared Inventory debacle, which I predicted would happen after all the feedback from Sisi about it got completely ignored. Thankfully Retribution seems to have fixed a lot of it so I'll likely be in Eve a little more again.

As Kelduum knows well, the corp interface between Dust and Eve at the moment is poor. i know thats it's a beta but it doesn't even come close to having even basic functionality. Currently the sum total of the Eve/Dust link is basically Eve Players and Dust players can communicate via corp chat channel on Sisi and thats it.

The brave world that Orbital Bombardment promised at Fanfest in March (still one of the cooler moments of the 3 days) and the very basic build we played then at Harpa, changed me from skeptic to interested. The beta build we first got access to when we got home, I went from interested to excited and Codex made me volunteer to be Director of Operations for Dust University. I'm working on some basic ideas and policies for how to run it on a day to day basis but until we get a clearer picture of the nature of the link at launch, how the corp system will work and get that information soon, I'm worried that Dust will be stillborn.

I know that CCP are excited for Dust. I was at the Newcastle meet and talked to CCP-Unifex a lot about it. But that enthusiasm seems to be diminished at the moment. Theres been no significant update to the build we're using at the moment for weeks now and there is only so many times you can fire an assault rifle before you know that it works. We need to start getting into the meat of the game, how it works with Eve. If Dust doesn't have a real and tangible effect in Eve itself from Day One that will get Eve players excited about it and use the Dust Bunnies for their own ends, then Dust 514 will fail. The FPS game mechanics are important to get right in order to get the COD crowd interested in Dust and by extension Eve. But if the Eve players don't care about it then whats the point of having the link in the first place.

And that would be a terrible shame.

Not just because the time, effort and resources that CCP have put into it would have been wasted but that the possibilities that a fully connected Eve and Dust, in terms of the expansion of the New Eden Universe will not come to pass. In a couple of years time, Dust Mercs could be hired to storm and take over a Titan or even a POS intact. Dust players and Eve players interacting on station in bars, shops and sports arena's. The pain of Incarna, Captain Quarters and monocles would finally be justified by CCP on that day.

We want Dust to work and we want to help make it work. We want a meaningful link on launch and Dust Bunnies want to make their mark in New Eden.

Eve is a wonderful Sandbox game, we all know this and love this. This is why we are still around...
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Ok I'll say 1 thing Me more as an EVE player, Where and how will the Two games influence Each other? and WHEN?? will the two communities start BETA testing it TOGETHER!!! if you don't do it soon i feel, CCP, that you will have huge issue on hand.. THE link is the selling point on Dust it is what will make unique! Make sure the two systems working together have good established Will polished connections that have been Beta tested by players on BOTH sides of the house at the same time before release so you can fix any exploitation issues that can/will come up prior.

Well, I thin EVE have allot of NDA and I'm sure that it is not on beta....

anyway... I think that we can expect allot of cool stuff coming from dust 514. CCP is doing an amazing work with it. and I wish it the best luck!