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Dev Blog: Drone Region changes in Retribution

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#61 - 2012-11-28 17:28:21 UTC
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Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#62 - 2012-11-28 17:30:11 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Sister Lumi wrote:
Why do rats give sec status gains outside empire space? There's no CONCORD there, just like in wormholes.


Well they do pay Concord dues/rent for SOV: I guess they are getting paid for doing Concord's job.



Bagrat Skalski wrote:
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How about some morse code back: ...---...
ps: what are RPing the Darlick from Dr Who?


CCP FoxFour wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Oh, also, Rouge Drones now give a sec status gain when you kill them. Just a little something we also added. :D

Rouge drones you say?

Lol


What you thought we would upgrade existing NPC? NAH! We are creating a whole new type of NPC that work like no other NPC in the game. >.<



And look like no other either?
rouge /ruʒ/ Show Spelled [roozh] Show IPA noun, verb, rouged, roug·ing.
noun
1. any of various red cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips.
2. a reddish powder, chiefly ferric oxide, used for polishing metal, glass, etc.

So these drones going to be like puting lipstick on a pig? Lol
I can't wait for the photoshops of these lipstick wearing drones Big smile

http://drawception.com/pub/panels/2012/9-16/m7EKHSdT2H-6.png
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-11-28 17:42:13 UTC
I laughed at the NPC names. Did you have someone randomly mash the 3, 4, and 5 keys to come up with them?
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
#64 - 2012-11-28 17:54:40 UTC
Another ISK faucet... wahoo.
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#65 - 2012-11-28 17:58:39 UTC
Sizeof Void wrote:
Another ISK faucet... wahoo.

Yeah this will surely cause an outrageous spike of .001% of isk injected into the game. Devastation.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#66 - 2012-11-28 17:58:40 UTC
Sizeof Void wrote:
Another ISK faucet... wahoo.

I think you're confused about what an ISK faucet is... The officers will add a -slight- isk faucet in the way of bounties, but they are so small and so few and far between I assume you aren't referring to their bounties, but to the drops.

Drops are not an ISK faucet. They don't magically generate ISK out of thin air like bounties. In order to make ISK from a dropped module you have to sell that module to another player and that other player has to give you ISK. This isn't a faucet, just a trade.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#67 - 2012-11-28 18:38:15 UTC
I think you need to add standard faction and deadspace versions of these too....

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
#68 - 2012-11-28 18:41:35 UTC
BeanBagKing wrote:
Sizeof Void wrote:
Another ISK faucet... wahoo.

I think you're confused about what an ISK faucet is... The officers will add a -slight- isk faucet in the way of bounties, but they are so small and so few and far between I assume you aren't referring to their bounties, but to the drops..

No, you assume wrong. I am only referring to the bounties.

And, yes, it may be considered only a "slight" increase, but it is an increase all the same.

Balance consists of tweaking numbers both up and down. If you are going to add a 0.001% faucet, then you need to add a 0.001% sink, as well.

The failure to always keep this in mind is why we continue to have more ISK faucets than ISK sinks in the game.
Jeremy Soikutsu
Kite Co. Space Trucking
#69 - 2012-11-28 18:53:31 UTC
Or perhaps CCP doesn't think they need to be dedicating resources to what amounts to a rounding error.

"Of course you would choose the fun, but you don't lead a relevant entity which has allies." - Colonel Xaven
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
#70 - 2012-11-28 19:06:42 UTC
Killing drones has never been so profitable!

Thanks for keeping things in line CCP, keep up the good work!
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-11-28 19:26:17 UTC
Sizeof Void wrote:
BeanBagKing wrote:
Sizeof Void wrote:
Another ISK faucet... wahoo.

I think you're confused about what an ISK faucet is... The officers will add a -slight- isk faucet in the way of bounties, but they are so small and so few and far between I assume you aren't referring to their bounties, but to the drops..

No, you assume wrong. I am only referring to the bounties.

And, yes, it may be considered only a "slight" increase, but it is an increase all the same.

Balance consists of tweaking numbers both up and down. If you are going to add a 0.001% faucet, then you need to add a 0.001% sink, as well.

The failure to always keep this in mind is why we continue to have more ISK faucets than ISK sinks in the game.


No, you're still wrong.

The amount of isk added by officer spawns that noone is ever going to get anyways, is actually an isk SINK, not an isk faucet.

Why? Because noone rats in the belts. However, if anyone were actually stupid enough to stop running drone hordes and patrols and such, they would be losing a ton of isk per hour, to belt rat. However, with no (valuable) faction spawns in the belts, this will be a far less profitable endeavour compared to other regions. Paired with the fact that the drops from these new officer spawns, short of the Drone Damage Amplifiers are all an absolute joke, especially the worthless DCU, (Seriously, I think this dev blog is a tongue in cheek jab at the drone regions as a whole, 'here's your officer drones, hahahahahaha. now quit complaining') people will overall be losing a lot of potential isk if they belt rat. For each person who comes out of drone anomalies in the drone regions, to belt rat, you're going to see LESS overall isk coming into the game (paired with that player actually making less overall).

Drone officers = Isk SINK reliant on people being dumb enough to belt rat in the drone regions.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-11-28 19:29:52 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Irregessa wrote:
Daedalus II wrote:
LadyZelda wrote:

What is the drone control unit adding? I assume easier fitting, but other than that? +2 drones per module fitted?

I want to know this as well, easier fitting is all good I guess, but it doesn't feel like the drone control units are what usually breaks a carrier fit. What I mean is that unless it does something insane like adding +2 drones per module I don't see why anyone would like to fit it given the (I assume) very high price it'll get?


Easier fitting is the only change, as in less CPU. No change to powergrid or other stats. I've commented elsewhere that fitting is a non-issue, but that went unanswered.

I was hoping that maybe we might see a faction carrier to totally pimp out with these Lol



Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#73 - 2012-11-28 19:31:00 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.


Why is that? Officer Dcu going to increase fighters damage and reduce explosion radius for fighter bombers?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-11-28 19:32:48 UTC
Cartosis Solette wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Hope you guys enjoy! :D


I'd really love to see something in all these empty non-officer and non-sentient drone wrecks... even if it is just metal scraps Smile


This was actually phased out in the most recent drone regions nerf. They USED to contain alloys, which were great for building with. However, instead of bringing bounties in line, and putting loot in, in line with other regions, they decided to just put the bounties, but leave them with no loot. Think this is the first patch in what, the last 4 or 5, that affected drone regions, that isn't a nerf to their money making, and even then, it's only a 2% buff to the salvage. The new officer spawn loot is bad, and whoever made it should feel bad.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-11-28 19:33:40 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
CCP Dolan wrote:
There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.


Why is that? Officer Dcu going to increase fighters damage and reduce explosion radius for fighter bombers?


No. Officer DCU does nothing at all. And by that I mean it has reduced CPU, when CPU was not even close to being needed.
Eo Prime
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2012-11-28 19:38:16 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
...to find the stats of the following item: Magic Crystal Ball


There are no -stats- on the Magic Crystal Ball, ah yes .. beside of Mass 1kg and volume 1m³
I want one! :)
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#77 - 2012-11-28 19:39:41 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
CCP Dolan wrote:
There are going to be some very happy carrier pilots.


Why is that? Officer Dcu going to increase fighters damage and reduce explosion radius for fighter bombers?


No. Officer DCU does nothing at all. And by that I mean it has reduced CPU, when CPU was not even close to being needed.



Yeah I know that... Was hopping foxy would read it and actually make it a useful mod... My idea would do just that...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Catlos JeminJees
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-11-28 19:46:15 UTC
Arronicus wrote:



Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.



Thats a Supper Carrier :)
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#79 - 2012-11-28 19:50:44 UTC
Catlos JeminJees wrote:
Arronicus wrote:



Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.



Thats a Supper Carrier :)


Only if it's plated.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2012-11-28 19:58:27 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Catlos JeminJees wrote:
Arronicus wrote:



Revenant. Sansha Supercarrier. You're welcome.



Thats a Supper Carrier :)


Only if it's plated.


Oh-ho, I see what you did there. Nice