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Ratting, even mining bots are toasted after Retribution.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2012-11-27 19:11:53 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Andski wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Andski, being coy? Everyone knows that deep 0.0 is filled with Bots, or nothing......


oh sup are you still white-knighting ice mining bots in brapelille?


It was Ardallabier actually. And it was my Alt Thomas Abernathy, this character is for lol's mostly.

And why would I need to go back there? It seems the hive's second ice interdiction failed miserably......Cool





Third. Or technically Bat Countrys second interdiction.

We still managed to make our billions thanks to all of the market panic while also showing how broken the barges are.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#22 - 2012-11-27 19:12:30 UTC
Andski wrote:
BuckStrider wrote:
Figures the first one to go all defensive would be some Goon.

You seem a little paranoid


yeah guy I'm totally shaking in my boots because some npc alt poster is calling us out on these mythical PvP bot fleets, claiming they exist with not one iota of evidence


Actually it's my NPC "alt" and it's an account of it's own. You might see NPC mains as valueless. I see them as an integral part of EVE if you are trying to avoid being part of the blob. Sisohiv is one of 15 characters I have and is in the top 4 in SP and has all my Industrial skill points. While you might see her as "just an NPC alt" I see her much different.

On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-11-27 19:21:00 UTC
Opertone wrote:
CCP botting policy is what made me quit EVE for the last two years... Why the hell did I return?


They ban bots randomly so you quit? Go away you bad person.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#24 - 2012-11-27 19:40:32 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Andski wrote:
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Andski, being coy? Everyone knows that deep 0.0 is filled with Bots, or nothing......


oh sup are you still white-knighting ice mining bots in brapelille?


It was Ardallabier actually. And it was my Alt Thomas Abernathy, this character is for lol's mostly.

And why would I need to go back there? It seems the hive's second ice interdiction failed miserably......Cool





Third. Or technically Bat Countrys second interdiction.

We still managed to make our billions thanks to all of the market panic while also showing how broken the barges are.


You only made Billions?
Heck I made Billions each off the last two Ice interdictions, and you guys have a lot more seed money than I do. You kids must be doing it wrong.... Lol



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Lolar55
Banana Toaster
#25 - 2012-11-27 19:54:24 UTC
npc rats switching targets will do nothing in reality bots will switch to more tanky stuff like skiffs
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2012-11-27 20:04:21 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:


You only made Billions?
Heck I made Billions each off the last two Ice interdictions, and you guys have a lot more seed money than I do. You kids must be doing it wrong.... Lol





I admit, compared to the over one trillion we have made on freighters the number is rather small.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-11-27 21:29:26 UTC
Ioci wrote:
On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.


Right, there are no "PvP scripts" no matter how much you insist. Considering that their behavior would be ridiculously predictable, they would not be very feasible, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that they'd be quite noticeable.

I do love all of the replies from those who think that bots are only a nullsec phenomenon, though Roll

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-11-28 01:40:23 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I didn't know there were rating bots. Man AI sure has advanced. Soon they'll be making things TO rate.


Explains why those Retrievers I just flew past said things like "$hitfit 3.5", "WTF 3.8", "LOL 3.2"

Makes perfect sense now.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#29 - 2012-11-28 01:44:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Skydell
Andski wrote:
Ioci wrote:
On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.


Right, there are no "PvP scripts" no matter how much you insist. Considering that their behavior would be ridiculously predictable, they would not be very feasible, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that they'd be quite noticeable.

I do love all of the replies from those who think that bots are only a nullsec phenomenon, though Roll


Sisohiv wrote:
EVE has PvP scripts and for anyone who doesn't believe that, force a Ti-Di and watch certain fleets crash and burn. As long as fleet based combat is the corner stone of Null, they will be there.

As for rat and mining bots, they will adapt. Games where the community is the power, they will abuse. Power, corruption, blah blah blah. We all know the creed.


Keep spinning the spin, spin meister.

Oh and yes, you are still talking to the same person.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-11-28 02:42:27 UTC
Well I've never heard of it. Must be true.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#31 - 2012-11-28 03:15:34 UTC
Andski wrote:
Ioci wrote:
On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.


Right, there are no "PvP scripts" no matter how much you insist. Considering that their behavior would be ridiculously predictable, they would not be very feasible, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that they'd be quite noticeable.

I do love all of the replies from those who think that bots are only a nullsec phenomenon, though Roll



Why would anyone use PvP scripts, when isboxer is available? All you need is endless isk to fund all the alts, a quality gaming system and bam! Instant fleet. Lol


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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-11-28 03:40:31 UTC
Skydell wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
EVE has PvP scripts and for anyone who doesn't believe that, force a Ti-Di and watch certain fleets crash and burn. As long as fleet based combat is the corner stone of Null, they will be there.

As for rat and mining bots, they will adapt. Games where the community is the power, they will abuse. Power, corruption, blah blah blah. We all know the creed.


Keep spinning the spin, spin meister.

Oh and yes, you are still talking to the same person.


so, evidence?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-11-28 04:08:35 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Andski wrote:
Ioci wrote:
On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.


Right, there are no "PvP scripts" no matter how much you insist. Considering that their behavior would be ridiculously predictable, they would not be very feasible, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that they'd be quite noticeable.

I do love all of the replies from those who think that bots are only a nullsec phenomenon, though Roll



Why would anyone use PvP scripts, when isboxer is available? All you need is endless isk to fund all the alts, a quality gaming system and bam! Instant fleet. Lol




Isboxer is pretty cool. We have one guy who runs his own bomber wing.
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#34 - 2012-11-28 04:36:35 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:

Figures the first one to go all defensive would be some Goon.

You seem a little paranoid


I've seen how Goons fly, if they are using bots then I'd be sacking my programmer.

Ioci wrote:


On the topic of script fleet PvP, I never accused GSF of it. I've seen you guys shitup local. There is no debate you guys are active. So the other reply was right. You are paranoid.



Wait, what?

So expecting someone to provide even a shred of evidence to back up an extraordinary claim, regardless of what the claim is, now makes people paranoid?

What a crazy world we live in where expecting people to be able to back up what they say is labelled as "paranoid"

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-11-28 05:21:11 UTC
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:


Wait, what?

So expecting someone to provide even a shred of evidence to back up an extraordinary claim, regardless of what the claim is, now makes people paranoid?

What a crazy world we live in where expecting people to be able to back up what they say is labelled as "paranoid"


Pretty much this. It just sounds like 2010 era "Sphere" bullshit. I mean there are cheat scripts in the game that make use of python injection and the like but they mainly affect things that can be changed at the client side. Some script that fires up tidi just sounds like nonsense. From my experience Tidi usually kicks in at gatecrossings then settles down. I can't think of any script that would be able to do that on a large scale.

Maybe isboxing a 1000 man fleet, but that's just stupid.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2012-11-28 08:36:45 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Wait, what?

So expecting someone to provide even a shred of evidence to back up an extraordinary claim, regardless of what the claim is, now makes people paranoid?

What a crazy world we live in where expecting people to be able to back up what they say is labelled as "paranoid"


Pretty much this. It just sounds like 2010 era "Sphere" bullshit. I mean there are cheat scripts in the game that make use of python injection and the like but they mainly affect things that can be changed at the client side. Some script that fires up tidi just sounds like nonsense. From my experience Tidi usually kicks in at gatecrossings then settles down. I can't think of any script that would be able to do that on a large scale.

Maybe isboxing a 1000 man fleet, but that's just stupid.

Sounds like we all need to take a lesson on

How to MULTIPLY your blobs, get all the pilots to use ISBOXER. But don't accidentally try to say hi to someone.

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#37 - 2012-11-28 08:44:29 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Andski wrote:
Sisohiv wrote:
EVE has PvP scripts and for anyone who doesn't believe that, force a Ti-Di and watch certain fleets crash and burn. As long as fleet based combat is the corner stone of Null, they will be there.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


Andski, being coy? Everyone knows that deep 0.0 is filled with Bots, or nothing......



No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null.

So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob:

CCP Stillman wrote:
I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:

High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773
0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651


You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data.

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Herr Esiq
Viziam
#38 - 2012-11-28 09:11:07 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:

No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null.

So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob:

CCP Stillman wrote:
I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:

High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773
0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651


You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data.


Couldnt that just mean more bots are caught in high-sec? I imagine a system of emptyness where bots farm 24/7 no-one would bother to report and less would get caught.

Whilst in high-sec i get accused for botting because i dont reply to convo-spam and dont reply to a wall of taunts.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2012-11-28 13:34:34 UTC
Herr Esiq wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:

No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null.

So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob:

CCP Stillman wrote:
I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:

High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773
0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651


You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data.


Couldnt that just mean more bots are caught in high-sec? I imagine a system of emptyness where bots farm 24/7 no-one would bother to report and less would get caught.

Whilst in high-sec i get accused for botting because i dont reply to convo-spam and dont reply to a wall of taunts.

At least 50% of miners killed were easily identifiable as bots given that they continued warping to the station and back to the belt in a pod. Lonetrek and the forge are by far the most bot infested in all of EVE.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2012-11-28 13:49:29 UTC
Herr Esiq wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:

No, actually recently 77.3% of bots appear to be caught in high-sec, with just over 16.5% caught in null.

So it's high-sec that's full of bots, sorry Bob:

CCP Stillman wrote:
I ran the numbers. And if anything, we're seeing a lower number of bots we're catching in high-sec, in favor of 0.0. But I don't think the trend is big enough for it to be more than speculation. To give you an idea, a best fit line on the data I have is like this:

High-sec: y1 = -0.0011x + 0.773
0.0: y2 = 0.0008x + 0.1651


You can sort of deduce from that how low-sec plays out. But regardless, I don't think we can really draw any conclusion from this data.


Couldnt that just mean more bots are caught in high-sec? I imagine a system of emptyness where bots farm 24/7 no-one would bother to report and less would get caught.

Whilst in high-sec i get accused for botting because i dont reply to convo-spam and dont reply to a wall of taunts.

I'm pretty sure CCP doesn't require players to report bots in order to find them.

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