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The trick is the can flipper needs to make his can BEFORE becoming a suspect. That way it is not a "free to take" can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTalnzcO0xk

^this

the other work to simplify aggro mechanics and flagging were a huge step to making your mouse finger all the safety you need.

Set up your overview correctly in highsec for your given activity and there's no need for extra restrictions on how people play the game. the safety is taking away one of my favorite parts of the game which is the emotional reaction.

Sometimes life gets you down, and when it does, just shoot the closest thing in space. having an extra safety switch step in there will eliminate oh-so-many of those instant gratifications, the extra emo-check saying "you can't do that unless you turn your safety switch off" will allow cooler heads to prevail and in general, make eve a little less eveish.


but on a more serious note --- help me understand what is in place to prevent the nullbear botters from using the safe loggoff timer to the detriment of the antibots. many of us were drooling over the botageddon that would happen 12/4 when the aggro mechanics change, but now CCP is giving them all a nice yellow countdown that they can use to make their gutless logoffski mannerisms function nearly foolproof.

I'd rather a safety work on disabling popups in null and lowsec. people still need to be able to make stupid mistakes. seriously how hard is it to turn auto target off and not press f1

It's a minute, that timer is counting down. I thought that was obvious.

How is "safe logoff" safer than say... logging off - apart from the requirement to sit visibly in space with no active modules, which I can assure you, is far from safe.

Does 'safe logoff ' invalidate aggro timers or something?

Well, sir, you need to prove it. I can equally say it's counting down from 3 minutes without blinking.

Seems cool but still alot of 'major' issues that could've been looked at instead of this, like cloaky campers (fair enough they exist blah blah but they shouldn't be allowed to do it afk) how boring mining is, how ICE should've been removed from highsec, to make titans useful again ect ect

and also like to mention why is it razor got a bunch of carriers back when they lost them to the exploit of spam chats, when they lost them before it was classed as an exploit?? that sir is BS guarantee any other alliance not friendly to goons would off got the 'we show no errors in our logs'

meh im gonna go cry in a corner and listen to skrillex

I would want an action that is not permitted under the current safety level to open a popup similar to the ones on TQ atm. "This action is not permitted because your safety level is blabla. Do you want to make an exception?". This way you still have the option to do some impulsive gcc'ing and so on. That would make the safety toggle be more like a confirmation toggle, but yeah. With it switched off, you have disabled all warnings and confirmations, excellent for eebil piwates and low sec dwellers. Me and most casual pvpers have all confirmation dialogs still on in case of misclicks, and to be able to turn them off temporarily (without having to go through the options menu) would be nice. Coupled with some confirmation pop up clarifications with clear consequences, it would go a long way.

TL;DR: Turning the safety toggle into a confirmation toggle would be nice although it won't happen.

If you have safety switched on, can you still engage legal war targets?

From their description, yes.

It just stops you doing anything that would give you a suspect or criminal flag (depending on the setting)