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This persistent setting business is actually hilarious. Why on earth (or in New Eden) would you release this in this state? You can't even change it while you're in station, can you? Lol.

When you eventually do get around to doing this properly, please make sure that you can also change this setting while in station, or better yet from the... "SETTINGS" menu.

Hilarious.

I can't shake the impression that they got this idea from Google's "Safe Search" setting options. To be honest, I don't like it. Removes the need to practice care and take responsibility for negligent actions. Do people really "accidentally" target capsuleer/CONCORD ships and "misclick" a weapons module in high sec? Seems rediculous to me that this game mechanic is even being pondered let alone being developed for implementation.
If at all, this should be a completely optional feature where if you choose to not use it, you never have to see it.

As for the log off countdown, I think it's redundant and exaggerate. I do understand the problem of people logging off while in peril or to evade in deadspace but I thought it had already been changed to deny exploitation. Why not just make another revision to the current "logging off while in space" stipulations? And what happens when someone gets disconnected while in space with the new system?

Yeah, no kidding. Either it's done, and tested, and you release it. Or it's not done, and you don't.

I found the post about this on page 3 of this thread, but thanks for the reassurance.

and...hey! I found your blog the other day. Good stuff.

Regarding the "Safety Button" (the green dot): someone didn't think this through, as it conflicts with "Show Readout". Because I couldn't find any present-day screenshots on Google Images showing what the readout looks like presently, here you go:

http://postimage.org/image/pqxcktnp3/

So, err... what do you plan on doing about that? :-)

Edit: Oh, one other thing -- how does this impact folks who are colourblind? I myself am not, but I have seen many posts from others on the forums who are (first saw hard evidence of this in the dev blog post titled Stay On Target!).

You still warp in from 1 million KM, no matter if you use the new safe logoff or the older, more direct version

You can quite clearly see tht the safety interlock sits comfortably between the cap/shield display and the readout numbers. The only issue will be the connecting lines, assuming that part of the UI has not been tweaked as well.

..... Sooo.... what happened to the 583rd promise to roll out ideas early in the design planning stages, or did I miss a memo?
Not that any of this makes a difference, us being less than a week from it hitting Tranquility, but EVE is a sandbox all about options and freedom to do things, not about protecting noobs or carebears at the expense of pvpers.
If you're asking yourself "What am I on about?" you obviously haven't thought this through.

#1. First of all, safety settings have to persist, Don't roll out broken features. If you don't think it's broken re-read some of the posts.

#2. So, if I want to use a smartbomb on my fit, I have to turn off my safeties... really... So if I want to make sure I don't get CONCORDED while accidentally targeting a fleet member in the locking frenzy I have to turn the safety on and off everytime I activate the smartbomb?

#3. No, It's not as quick and easy as activating a hardener. ALT+F2 or whatever activates a hardener. For safeties I'm assuming you will need to click on the UI, select the one you want, then confirm the selection.

#4. So every lowsec dweller and pirate from now on will be forced to remember to do the above every single time they log in... and if they forget to, they lose a target because they couldn't warp scramble him in time.... nice....

#5. Every high sec dweller now will have to remember to change the safety whenever they jump into/out of lowsec?

#6. As I roam LS, looking for pirates to kill, in my gang of spider tanking, remote boosting ships, I may encounter a pirate who is not an outlaw. That means I need to make a split second decision to scramble and shoot at him by pressing ENTER when the pop up comes up. Now, I will have to turn off safety which will... well... result in a lot of friendly fire, given that no popup will come up warning me of my illegal actions when I accidentally shoot a fleet mate which I'm remote repping.

#7. Theres nothing wrong with the warning messages, or at least a combination of this with warning messages. The warning messages truly allow you to pick and differentiate between accidents and intended actions. You can choose which warning messages to disable or enable, not throw them into two settings: ALWAYS DIE IN A FIRE or LIVE AS A CAREBEAR.

SERIOUSLY WHO THE HELL THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA? You couldn't just give a bit more damn and do it in a way that makes sense could you? Keep the damn safety feature but leave the warnings as well. For example:

• When Safety is on, disable all illegal actions as you mentioned.
• When the Safety is off, you still get that popup warning message unless you choose to disable them forever. Those that never want to see a damn warning popup will turn it off once and for all. Those that want to be able to make that decision on a case by case basis will keep safety off but warnings on, which will basically allow us to keep it the way it is now.

Why couldn't it be done this way? Can you explain? Does it make too much sense, or you just get a kick out of trolling us with one ****** up change with every otherwise great expansion?


You said it yourself... you're making this HUGE change and imposing it upon EVERYONE that PVPs on daily basis to prevent a few instances of rare scams? You're not saving anyone any hassle, you're pissing everyone off to protect a few people who make bad decisions or don't bother reading warning messages.

*Ramble mode off*

Bah.. silly youngins. Back in my day, you lived with the consequences of your actions.

OMG.. How did I miss that? That is crazy. You guys friggen serious? That better have been a typo.