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Warp drives possible says NASA.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-11-27 02:13:36 UTC
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:


All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. Blink



I was just surprised Aussie science had progressed beyond the care and feeding of babies to dingos.


Per head of population, 'Aussie science' is well ahead of American science. Although, I realise that's not setting the bar very high. :)


The earth is 6000 years old Straight

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#22 - 2012-11-27 02:23:20 UTC
Umm.. oh, look.. bicycle tires. What?

Actually, I am really hoping this doesn't turn out to be a false hope on their part, and actually results in prototype Warp technology or something akin to it in the next 10 years. Maybe as few as 5, if they get lucky and don't turn NASA inside out in the process. That would be messy. Ugh

Smile Seriously though, I am behind this and really hope it happens and I get to see it; in fact, sign me up, I'll go out there into that great unknown. ..well, maybe.. but I'd like to see it tested first and have a look at the technology and results of any and all testing before I make any serious commitments.
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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#23 - 2012-11-27 02:29:59 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:


All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. Blink



I was just surprised Aussie science had progressed beyond the care and feeding of babies to dingos.


Per head of population, 'Aussie science' is well ahead of American science. Although, I realise that's not setting the bar very high. :)


The earth is 6000 years old Straight


..and this quote-in-quote-in-quote-in-quote shows why Alien Spacecraft shed high amounts of radioactive energy when they are traveling through Earth atmosphere. Presumably, there is a way to compensate for it. Also might explain why they are quite often seen as burning spheres.

Just based on some stuff I have seen on TV and not actual, without-a-doubt, fact. I don't spend hardly any time paying attention to Aliens, but I used to like X-Files. Cool
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Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-11-27 02:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorn Arming
Fun fact: the Alcubierre drive is a media darling that no real physicist believes to be realizable under known physics.

Alcubierre described a particular geometry of spacetime that results in what Captain Picard might call a "warp bubble", but maintaining it requires a region of spacetime with negative energy density and creating the bubble in the first place is a complete unknown. There is no known or projected way to create and maintain the necessary geometry--Alcubierre just showed that it's a valid solution for Einstein's field equations.

In other words, nope.jpg
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#25 - 2012-11-27 03:01:56 UTC
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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#26 - 2012-11-27 03:20:11 UTC
Gorn Arming wrote:
Fun fact: the Alcubierre drive is a media darling that no real physicist believes to be realizable under known physics.

Alcubierre described a particular geometry of spacetime that results in what Captain Picard might call a "warp bubble", but maintaining it requires a region of spacetime with negative energy density and creating the bubble in the first place is a complete unknown. There is no known or projected way to create and maintain the necessary geometry--Alcubierre just showed that it's a valid solution for Einstein's field equations.

In other words, nope.jpg



Actually, that article is just using a possible theory to explain how NASA 'might' do it. They went back to something someone cam up with years ago, and put it into the equation. There is no reason NASA would be pursuing that particular line of theory in their current development and research.

They are researching though, apparently, and have found mathematical anomalies, (for lack of a better word), which suggest the idea itself is possible, if not this particular implementation of it. They're pursuing that mathematical probability, and seeing where it leads them.

I don't know if the idea as presented, (Warp Drive itself, conceptually), is possible, but a means to travel the stars must be possible outside of familiar conventional physics.

I'd wrap my head around it, but I honestly can't. I wouldn't know where to start. I base myself almost fully in conventional earthbound realities, and have limited ability to conceive of something like a 'Warp Bubble'. Honestly, I don't have a sense it is impossible, but can't conceive of a situation in which it would be probable.

It's sort of like time travel in the sense that the idea itself is almost entirely inconceivable within the realm of what we know. This is why they are doing research; to see how it might be conceivable.
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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-11-27 11:04:21 UTC
OHGOD EVENT HORIZON ALL OVER AGAIN!Shocked

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-11-27 20:30:30 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
OHGOD EVENT HORIZON ALL OVER AGAIN!Shocked


I totally didn't say that on the 1st page or anything Evil

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Borascus
#29 - 2012-11-27 20:47:00 UTC
Closest I got thinking along those lines involved quantum entanglement, and the eventual bottleneck, processing speeds and media to entangle were quite lacking 5 years ago.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#30 - 2012-11-27 21:15:56 UTC
WTB starship that WTFPWNBBQs a solar system upon dropping from warp. CCP, will I get Concordokkened for that?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#31 - 2012-11-27 21:18:48 UTC
Shalia Ripper wrote:


actually this could be pretty cool as well. i'm betting DARPA already has plans for some kind of advanced warp cannon. those pesky aliens won't know what hit them!! Twisted

as a side thought, maybe CCP should introduce some type of module that can convert the ships warp into some kind of totalhelldeath upon arrival. it'd be pretty hilarious to show up on grid in a flaming ball of utter destruction.
coty522
Boilers and Toilets
Lords Of Hyperion
#32 - 2012-11-29 18:21:06 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Umm.. oh, look.. bicycle tires. What?

Actually, I am really hoping this doesn't turn out to be a false hope on their part, and actually results in prototype Warp technology or something akin to it in the next 10 years. Maybe as few as 5, if they get lucky and don't turn NASA inside out in the process. That would be messy. Ugh

Smile Seriously though, I am behind this and really hope it happens and I get to see it; in fact, sign me up, I'll go out there into that great unknown. ..well, maybe.. but I'd like to see it tested first and have a look at the technology and results of any and all testing before I make any serious commitments.






sign me up...............where the dotted line as long as i have plenty of smokes and plenty of food ill be the first to test the warp drive to go to the great unknown with out any way of getting back. ill go pack my stuff right after this message. no bills no nothing im on it. What if it blows up, well its not like ill give a crap cause ill be dead.lol. i have no fear no remorse no nothing but excitment about it.
coty522
Boilers and Toilets
Lords Of Hyperion
#33 - 2012-12-05 18:24:26 UTC
coty522 wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
Umm.. oh, look.. bicycle tires. What?

Actually, I am really hoping this doesn't turn out to be a false hope on their part, and actually results in prototype Warp technology or something akin to it in the next 10 years. Maybe as few as 5, if they get lucky and don't turn NASA inside out in the process. That would be messy. Ugh

Smile Seriously though, I am behind this and really hope it happens and I get to see it; in fact, sign me up, I'll go out there into that great unknown. ..well, maybe.. but I'd like to see it tested first and have a look at the technology and results of any and all testing before I make any serious commitments.






sign me up...............where the dotted line as long as i have plenty of smokes and plenty of food ill be the first to test the warp drive to go to the great unknown with out any way of getting back. ill go pack my stuff right after this message. no bills no nothing im on it. What if it blows up, well its not like ill give a crap cause ill be dead.lol. i have no fear no remorse no nothing but excitment about it.




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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-12-05 18:40:23 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
OHGOD EVENT HORIZON ALL OVER AGAIN!Shocked


I totally didn't say that on the 1st page or anything Evil

yes but it needs to be stressed all over again. I mean, IF Event Horizon happens, that also means that it is quite possible that a future like the one in WH 40k is also possible.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-12-06 17:23:23 UTC
Gorn Arming wrote:
Fun fact: the Alcubierre drive is a media darling that no real physicist believes to be realizable under known physics.

Alcubierre described a particular geometry of spacetime that results in what Captain Picard might call a "warp bubble", but maintaining it requires a region of spacetime with negative energy density and creating the bubble in the first place is a complete unknown. There is no known or projected way to create and maintain the necessary geometry--Alcubierre just showed that it's a valid solution for Einstein's field equations.

In other words, nope.jpg

The concepts, much like wormhole travel, require something dubbed "exotic matter" to work. "Exotic matter" has properties like negative gravitation, and is basically boffin-speak for "unobtainium" (which was a word before James Cameron dropped it into Avatar). We've found no evidence that matter with the necessary properties exists. We only have mathematics, which may not entirely account for reality, that say the existence of such matter is not impossible.
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