Market Discussions

My thoughts to yours.

My thoughts are: trading is like planning a trip. You won't end well if you plan buying tickets etc. 1 hour before leaving home and these super-late analyses are a reaction of what in my land we call: "ox people".

Somebody "wakes up" late and finds the obvious, then a storm of Lemmings follows. Typical of retail shareholders debacles.

Late comers get trapped and killed by the market. They are those who buy extra late, extra high and right before a crash and so on.

Now, I don't say it's extra late to "get in" into Isogen (I have not checked the chart at all, I am out at this point) but your very "timing will be tricky" shows that you understand it's going to be hard to get in at this point.

Therefore, make sure you know what you are doing before substantially committing into it.




Finally, I'll reveal some grand coveted miners secrets:

AFK is everything, AFK is all.


1) The barges buffed huge cargo has squashed bots. Ships can now stay stuck on ice for 45 minutes with no intervention, no need to bot them since they are already "auto".

2) This leads to a much lower preference by miners for hi sec ores. Somewhat camped in this season, hi sec roids last few minutes and this greatly clashes against point 1 advantages.

3) Pyroxeres are huge yet they keeè volume for minimal Nocx contents and those roids last 2 laser cycles. Plus they are only in some empires => miners are not so hot on more micromanagement vs their AFK barges.

4) Omber roids are far from being everywhere and they are tiny. Once again, not really worth the effort. There are anyway nicer, smarter alternatives but they are also split against other direct sinks.

http://i.imgur.com/56Ejk.png

"lol"

I wonder if someone read this thread or if it merely looked ripe for a hit.

I would hope that whoever f'ed up jita like that did so after making their own considerations... I am by no means an expert economist or investor.

That's been the case for a very long time. Gneiss and Spod are reliant on expensive high ends to have value. Back before grav sites and the drone regions, they were right where you'd expect them to be, forming the "low end" of nullsec ores, but still more valuable than anything else on their own.

Not so much anymore, clearly.

I am mynnna. So, yes, you could say I had a hand in it. And thank you.

Ingame, because this character is the one I'm most frequently logged into. On the forums, because at one point I preferred to keep the identities semi-separate. Not so much the case anymore, but I keep going with it anyway. I'd hate to give up all my likes.

Except Mex has been fairly stable around 60-62 since July, but ok thanks for that I guess?

because there's about 300k/jetcan difference in price bwetween hed and ark, and for 300k/can i wouldn't bother wasting a few days training for crystals either.

in high sec, it's more lucrative to just strip a whole belt of everything rather than faff around trying to cherry pick ores. it's pretty much the same with 0.0 grav sites, especially when they respawn after they've been stripped.

also, bistot doesn't produce mex. it produces pyerite. hemorphite produces mex, then again if i'm reading this website correctly plaig produces 50x more mex than hemo, and it's in abundance around jita.

We still aren't thinking of miners as players with fixed play time, say 2 hrs a day. We assume they are bots, running 23/7 and just mining what's in front of them. If mining is the 2-3 hr player, what will Isogen need to be at to make Hed and Omber the ore people look for when the scanner cycle is up?