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Making the four High Sec empires separated by low sec.
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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-11-29 17:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Ted
Ronan Connor wrote:

I dont think it is like this right now. There are some shortcuts, but not to bring such a huge advantage of reaching jita from everywhere in high sec within 5 jumps. It maybe brings you 14 instead of 18 jumps. The risk this is bringing is not worth it.

Wormholes arent safe nor are they worth the trouble (finding it first, checking the mass of it, bringing a freighter in it). Blockade runners arent worth their name. You only want to fly into low sec if you can fit a cloak like with the Viator.

Certainly you would destroy the afk freighter routes but you would also ruin normal high sec players life by forcing them through low sec when they want to get from Amarr to Jita.

Again I am not against a buff of low sec systems. The new ORE frigate is exemplary for that. More people will use it and try out more dangerous regions with a t1 frigate. Therefore more mining will happen in low sec, therefore the mineral market will grow out there and you probably with have more professional mineral buyer getting the stuff back to high sec.
But keep in mind that "where there is a winner, there is a looser". That would cause people to quit who dont want to live with this kind of buff of yours for the low sec, therefore the felt and real nerf of their playstyle.

If you really want to get rid of afk freighter, you need to find ways to make it worth not flying afk (and by that i dont mean you will be killed by afk - what you are right now anyway in Uedama).


Wormholes are actually extremely safe, if you only have to jump through one wormhole system then if you have a scout you can't be caught, if something bad shows up just jump back through the wormhole and it will collapse. Then you also have wormholes that go from one high security space system to another that are fairly common. I think half of all high sec wormholes can fit freighters.

I doubt the new mining frigate will change much, I will probably make more isk per hour in high sec.
Finding wormholes or flying a cloaked hauler is not hard and i'm sure a freighter pilot will easily adapt, the lower volumes of items being traded between places hopefully will be a good thing. Also not being AFK is not going to safe you from suicide gankers. Even if you gave freighters frigate agility they would still be easily killed.

Secondly, if I go from hek to jita it is 18 jumps by high sec, through low sec it is 9, Amarr to rens through lowsec will also safe you 9 jumps. Nobody seems to use these routes or try to secure Rancer because why bother if I can go watch tv for a few hours and I get their anyway.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
CaleAdaire
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#22 - 2012-11-30 11:55:40 UTC
I think this would be a great idea for two main reasons,
1) true trade corporations could begin to crop up, not these one man 10 alt corps that all have freighters and just AFK bus goods from caldari to amarr to gallente to minmatar space. We would see coordinated efforts of multiple players making convoys to make isk.
2) we would see real, honest to goodness mercenary/security corps that are hired to disrupt or protect these supply routes. This gives new players somewhere to fit in, it may in fact make EvE a little more new player friendly while preserving the "EvE is harsh" attitude.

Overall prices will rise, but innovation and teamwork, as always, will allow for ISK making opportunities.

TL;DR, +1

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Hate 101
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-12-05 06:34:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Hate 101
it would be great be like 4 jitas one for each race i have never left my caldari space i have never left the main sys i live in for months not even one jump all the places cut off would become trade hubs and they would make the stuff and mine for it in that area of space then be right back to the way it is now x4 Lolthere is all ways a way to by pass you being part of the game








3 weeks later op we need to end high sec
Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-12-06 20:22:32 UTC
I like the low sec idea but the problem is almost every gate you could think of would be camped.

If you want to get rid of AFK freighters prevent them from having auto pilot in the first place.
Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-12-06 20:43:24 UTC
Lexar Mundi wrote:
I like the low sec idea but the problem is almost every gate you could think of would be camped.

If you want to get rid of AFK freighters prevent them from having auto pilot in the first place.

It would be silly to think every gate would be camped. Even Rancer is not camped 24/7

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
Elinea Marcutz
#26 - 2012-12-06 20:58:01 UTC
This is the second time this week I have heard a similar idea, http://evenews24.com/2012/12/05/submission-titan-bridges-are-only-a-symptom-not-the-problem/ and personally I support them both. Breaking the secure lines between warring factions (Amarr-Minmatar & Caldari-Galente) is a no brainer but I think several secure lines between the allies (Galente-Minmatar & Amarr-Celdari) should remain and limited near secure lines should remain between semi-neutral factions (Galente-Amarr & Minmatar-Caldari). This will allow people to continue their lives unchanged if they prefer although in a limited fashion while opening up more interesting trade routes for those willing to risk a direct route. While this does not directly push people into lowsec, as a transit trader I can say quite confidently, the shorter route WILL get used and players will adapt.

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