EVE New Citizens Q&A

I am a new player, my 14 day trial ends on Friday and I will then be subbing for the forseeable future. As you can probably tell, I haven't even found a corp yet (waiting in the queue for EVE Uni right now).

I wanted to post here because this is very interesting and relevant to me. I have a couple thoughts, so please bear with me a moment here.

1) Regarding the Buddy account.
I did not accept multiple offers for this, because of three reasons. First, I am an old UO player and at first I did not trust any of those people. I wasn't willing to give any information, or tie them to my account for any reason at all. Second, I think 14 days is more than enough to determine if I want to play the game or not. Most games I can tell within one solid weekend, but 2 weeks is a very nice timeframe to see how it fits into my life. And finally... I don't want someone to give me 300 million ISK right now, because I wouldn't understand the value of that amount of cash in-game.

Somebody gave me 50 million ISK as an unexpected donation, and I haven't allowed myself to spend a dime of it yet. I am still working with the 13m or so I've earned on my own. I'm sure the day will come when I know how best to use it... but that day isn't today.

2) Regarding PvP.
I really, really want to PvP. I've considered skipping straight to low sec or null sec, but I am woefully aware of my lack of game knowledge. Every time I figure something out, I wind up with two questions to replace it. More importantly though... I do not have a steady ISK income or the player skills to know how to quickly and efficiently generate ISK. Finally... it's not really fun to die before I have a chance to even realize what happened. As you guys know, us new guys go splat very quickly.

I'm cool with losing ships (hell I've blown up probably half a dozen Destroyers because I thought they were Battleships), and I get that the risk is a huge part of the thrill. The problem is that I also understand learning PvP (I am a lifetime PvPer) is going to be a long hard road filled with explosions, of the personal pod related kind. I don't want to go fight, lose a few ships, and then stop and spend another few weeks rebuilding my ISK. Instead, I plan to spend a few months setting up a stable income and then worry about the best way to utilize that income.

3) Regarding Sandbox games.
I will keep this short. I have played a lot of games in my life, both themepark and sandbox style. Most people today, however, don't even understand what that means. Sandbox games are very niche, and very uncommon.


So, I've said all that in order to say this:

In my opinion, as a brand new player (but an experienced sandbox PvPer), is that there are three things I think would drastically help new guys (or would help me).

A) Tutorials need help. The content of them is alright, but the delivery of information and instruction is sometimes difficult and confusing. Some of them are very unspecific, and I could have never finished them without the Rookie Channel.
B) Finding a corporation to suit your needs is a little unwieldy. There is the search feature, I know, but it doesn't tell you a lot of stuff and also it is difficult to know if you can trust those people.
C) A little taste of what is to come would be great. For example, I really want to know what it's like to fly an Oracle... but realistically getting to a place where I have the skills and ISK to fit it properly, and the knowledge to replace it easily is probably months away. For now I am relegated to Frigates and Destroyers (which are cool), and I could possibly get into a cheap cruiser but the risk is very high. I am not saying new guys should be given the resources or ability to use these things in the game proper, but perhaps some kind of brief training period where we get to experience the different ship classes a little would help give us some excitement and establish some personal goals (for those not used to sandbox games).


I know this probably went a little long, but thanks for reading if you got this far.

Thanks for the reply, J'Poll.

1 & 2) I didn't know that. That would have been great information, and now I worry that perhaps I missed an opportunity to secure some start up capital for future projects.

In your opinion, if I have this guy with like 300,000 SP (and another with 230k or so that I abandoned because I didn't like his haircut, lol) would I be better served by starting a new account via the buddy program and banking the ISK while accepting the training time loss?

3) This I understand, and is the reason why I am A - not trusting anyone right now, and B - applying to EVE Uni where I can at least be somewhat confident (given their reputation) that I will get a chance to learn before being scammed.

4) I didn't even know such a thing existed. I will read up on it and give it a whirl.


And just to make myself clear in regards to the OP - I personally don't want to be babied from the beginning, but I think it might be cool if there was a player corp similar to CONCORD who didn't admit new players, but actively worked to protect them. Then, the player could experience the full range of sandbox content while also seeing that not everyone is an *******.

I know this is off-topic, but any recommendations for corps to look into? It's hard to know who is reliable.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8233017

That was me, less then 2 months old.

It wasn't really to PvP, but I heard all kinds of bad things about null-sec and decided that I wanted to see what was true about it.

This is pretty much the worst place for this thread. Most ofthe people in here are newbies themselves or are people who want to help newbies, i.e. you are preaching to the converted. Really you should be posting it in eve general or C+P, you brave enough for that?

I have always thought that the buddy systems of most games was silly and short sighted. Why give just a 1 time free month for a buddy subbing up when nothing encourages them to stay for a second or third month. I would like to see a system where you earn say 1/5 of a Plex for each month your buddy stays subbed to the game with no limit on the number of 'Vassals' you can have. True this would mean that some people play for free but you can only play for free if you KEEP 5 people playing under you. And that is beauty of the system, it encourages people to keep up with their buddies and make sure they are enjoying themselves enough to keep playing the game.

The only downside of the system is that for CCP, it will effectively reduce the revenue from a subscriber to $12 a month as someone else would be getting a $3 credit for there sub. But that may well be offset by higher retention rates. Also, it wouldn't matter if the 'Vassal' was an alt account as the person would have to spend $15 to save $3. Finally, on the up side, this system would do away with the current problem of subbing up a buddy account immediately providing a whole Plex that can be used to sub up the next buddy account until you run out of invites. With the current buddy system the problem comes from the reward being so front loaded.

Amway goes to the stars.