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Low Sec Sentry Gun Question

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Count of MonteCylon
Anti-Pirate Enforcement
#1 - 2012-11-23 07:46:06 UTC
Let's say you attack an outlaw by some sentry guns. I understand that the sentry guns won't defend him or help you against him. But let's say that the outlaw has other people in a fleet with him. If those fleet members attack you in defense of an outlaw, will the sentry guns attack them, or are they allowed to help the outlaw?

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CraftyCroc
Fraternity Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2012-11-23 09:36:49 UTC
By attacking an outlaw you do not receive a criminal flag - if the outlaw has backup and they shoot you they will receive criminal flags (gcc).

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ISD LackOfFaith
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ISD Alliance
#3 - 2012-11-23 23:47:16 UTC
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
Let's say you attack an outlaw by some sentry guns. I understand that the sentry guns won't defend him or help you against him. But let's say that the outlaw has other people in a fleet with him. If those fleet members attack you in defense of an outlaw, will the sentry guns attack them, or are they allowed to help the outlaw?

Yes. Shooting an outlaw doesn't make you a valid target to anyone else than the guy you shot (he can fire back self defense). Therefore, if anyone shoots you, it's as if they shot you out of the blue -- so they get gate gun aggro.

Note, though, that if there is a sizable amount of people on a gate, they will be able to blow you up before the sentry guns will do significant damage to them. Exactly what that number is depends on the ship types involved, but I'd be careful about shooting an outlaw who has buddies with him.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-11-24 01:32:34 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Count of MonteCylon wrote:
Let's say you attack an outlaw by some sentry guns. I understand that the sentry guns won't defend him or help you against him. But let's say that the outlaw has other people in a fleet with him. If those fleet members attack you in defense of an outlaw, will the sentry guns attack them, or are they allowed to help the outlaw?

Yes. Shooting an outlaw doesn't make you a valid target to anyone else than the guy you shot (he can fire back self defense). Therefore, if anyone shoots you, it's as if they shot you out of the blue -- so they get gate gun aggro.

Note, though, that if there is a sizable amount of people on a gate, they will be able to blow you up before the sentry guns will do significant damage to them. Exactly what that number is depends on the ship types involved, but I'd be careful about shooting an outlaw who has buddies with him.


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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-11-25 07:08:56 UTC
Learn about gate camps by pirates (outlaws)
Keno Skir
#6 - 2012-11-25 20:20:33 UTC
DPS from lowsec gate guns is substantial but not amazing, don't rely on it to fend off anything bigger than maybe couple solo cruisers. Tho they will almost instapop the average T1 frig.

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#7 - 2012-11-26 02:08:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
Keno Skir wrote:
DPS from lowsec gate guns is substantial but not amazing, don't rely on it to fend off anything bigger than maybe couple solo cruisers. Tho they will almost instapop the average T1 frig.

I think it's 500 DPS or so per gate gun, with perfect tracking, to add a figure to it.

Ed:So, each gate gun does about as much damage as a Thorax (sans drones) would if he had you in optimal and standing perfectly still. As indicated, that is substantial, but not amazing. Enough to scare off cruisers/BCs, and to outright kill frigates, but everything else is only mildly inconvenienced (and proper logistics ships completely nullify the significance of the damage).

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-11-26 02:09:42 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
DPS from lowsec gate guns is substantial but not amazing, don't rely on it to fend off anything bigger than maybe couple solo cruisers. Tho they will almost instapop the average T1 frig.

I think it's 500 DPS or so per gate gun, with perfect tracking, to add a figure to it.


lol lowsec gate guns Lol

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Keno Skir
#9 - 2012-11-26 11:08:00 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
lol lowsec gate guns Lol


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