Player Features and Ideas Discussion

At that point could things not just go to "Hoard vs Alliance"

The simplest solution, I think, if only going through High-Sec, is to have one escort and one escort only: A logistic Ship.
It's repping capacity is enough to throw off any gankers calculations as to the damage they can deal in time before being wiped by Concord.

Even better if able to have a boost to Shield and Armour too, and to Shield/armour resistance ratings.

I know it's boring watching a Freighter haul stuff through space but if your corporation is getting paid to do so then that should be the least of the problems. 2 pilots and you way more than quintuple your success chance.

Cheers

That was a bit uncalled for Lord Zim. *frowns* And not in keeping with the forums rules of conduct.

If this were true, then we would be seeing many more jump freighter kills in highsec. The fact of the matter is, people do freighter ganks for profit, not killboard stats.

Amarr/Gallente/Caldari/Minmatar Freighter Skill Bonus: 15% bonus to structure resistances and 5% bonus to agility per level.

Knock out the ability to dump an expanded cargohold on a freighter with the addition of a low slot.
Extra EHP.
Quicker align times. Face it, the velocity bonus is useless.

Solved.

you've put in good suggestions that I didn't quote.

but for your last part, a gank happens usually in less then 12 seconds. no logi can rep enough in 12 seconds to make a difference. that could work for low-sec transport tho!

where do you see me whine about getting ganked?

Did you even read the topic?

ganking is part of this game. I don't care about it.

I just want more freighters options.

Tier 3 battlecruisers cost about as much now without an insurance payout as a tier 3 battleship costed before, when it was possible to get platinum insurance out of a gank. People seem to think that ganking is easier now, but it's really about the same.

That being said, I definitely think there should be more options for freighter pilots. I'm in favor of reducing their overall attributes and adding equip slots to them, making a typical fit just as tough as the current freighters, with room for a craftier fitting specialist to make it even stronger. This puts more power into the players' hands. At current, freighters are the only way to ship some things, and the only reasonable way to ship large amounts of things. It's not fair to the people who are willing to put effort into fitting it for the only option to be a non-fittable ship.

That's a terrible lineup of choices. Jump freighters and orcas offer a very minor advantage in some situations over a freighter, and with much less cargo as well as a higher training cost and (in the case of the jump freighter) a much larger price tag.

A good small freighter will not have greater training requirements than a large freighter, and it will be substantially cheaper and more agile. Neither Orca nor Jump Freighter even come close to this.

A good tough freighter can cost more and have a longer training time than a standard large freighter, but it needs a similar cargo space. The Jump Freighter doesn't match up there, and the Orca is a far cry from it.

I'm getting really tired of pointing this out to you people. It should be pretty obvious.

Iteron Mark V. Less requirements, substantially cheaper, more agile. At the cost of cargohold.


Why would you bother flying a regular freighter if you can get more ehp, similar cargo space, and for the same cost, but have to train an extra few weeks? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

The fact is, there are options for your niche requirements, and strategies that you can use to protect freighters, but you just choose not to use them and instead prefer to throw a fit on the forums.